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ressgonzol  
#1661 Posted : Thursday, November 7, 2019 3:58:57 AM(UTC)
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Question for those more informed than I:

When did Journeyman for RO get bumped up from GS9 to GS 11?

What was it like being a Grade 9 RO (how were the cases etc)

Any chance that RO journeyman ever becomes GS 12?


The journeyman increased sometime in 2017.

Looking back the cases were generally quick and easy but also hard because your OJI was gone.

I think one day the journeyman will increase again but not for many years.
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#1662 Posted : Thursday, November 7, 2019 8:19:29 AM(UTC)

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Years ago much of the grunt work in the government was done by Grade 9 employees. Revenue Officers, Border Patrol Agents, U.S. Marshals, Immigration Inspectors, Customs Inspectors were journeyman 9s. Most Revenue Agents and Special Agents were GS-11. To get a higher grade, employees had to compete, or wait for someone to retire.
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#1663 Posted : Thursday, November 7, 2019 1:58:17 PM(UTC)
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The journey level was raised in December 2016..

There is no grade 9 work or grade 7 work. Unless it’s above journey level its grade 11 work.

I recommend you form good relationships with people in your training year. You’ll need them in your second year.

Basically what my grandfather told me applies in you’re training year. ‘Never step on the toes of someone whose ass you might have to kiss later’

I doubt the journey level will increase to 12 before I retire.
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#1664 Posted : Tuesday, December 3, 2019 10:08:50 AM(UTC)
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Any word on the RO December announcement? When is it gonna post
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#1665 Posted : Friday, December 6, 2019 9:17:26 AM(UTC)
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The next EOD date I’m aware of is in April
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#1666 Posted : Friday, December 6, 2019 11:24:34 AM(UTC)
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@usmc03.

Check usajobs I saw some RO jobs with an end date of 12/12
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#1667 Posted : Saturday, December 7, 2019 6:42:06 AM(UTC)
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GS-12 RO jobs are out
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#1668 Posted : Friday, December 13, 2019 4:56:04 PM(UTC)
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Any word on the RO December announcement? When is it gonna post


Once there is a budget, they will post the job announcement. Not much can be done for new external hiring with CR's.
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#1669 Posted : Friday, December 13, 2019 4:57:29 PM(UTC)
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For anyone hired in Waves 1,2, or 3, how are you liking the job?
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#1670 Posted : Sunday, December 15, 2019 9:23:06 AM(UTC)
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For anyone hired in Waves 1,2, or 3, how are you liking the job?


How do you like the job? Can you see yourself making it a career?

I retired a few years back. Things have probably changed quite a bit.
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#1671 Posted : Monday, December 16, 2019 3:00:49 PM(UTC)
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I went to OJI Training first week of December. Supposedly there are suppose to be wave 5 and 6 in april.

And the director of field collection sent an email last week anticipating the budget for more new hires for FY2020
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#1672 Posted : Saturday, December 21, 2019 10:33:20 AM(UTC)

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For anyone hired in Waves 1,2, or 3, how are you liking the job?


I was hired in wave 2. I'll be leaving for Unit 3 training in January.

Honesty, the job is great. I spent 9 plus years answering the phones for the service. Compared to that this job is a dream. Except for one of my fellow new hires who's a pain in the ass.

A few helpful tips. Schedule in ics days to work on new cases and print out the ics summary screen and create your folder every monday. Check your statutes every Monday: let your manager and OJI of you have any within 12 months. Check your trust funds every Monday.

I'm finding being flexible with deadlines helps me more than them: but I always have two deadlines so I can issue my L3164 unless they dont meet the 2246 deadline.

But like I said, the jobs awesome. I dont ever dread Monday's, but there is never enough time in the day on busy days.


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#1673 Posted : Saturday, December 21, 2019 3:40:38 PM(UTC)
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For anyone hired in Waves 1,2, or 3, how are you liking the job?


How do you like the job? Can you see yourself making it a career?

I retired a few years back. Things have probably changed quite a bit.


The job definitely gives you a lot of independence. It's not for everyone, but I definitely think I can make it a career. My GM told our group it really takes 5 years to be a seasoned RO. What I find interesting about the job though is how much say the GM has on you versus if you work the phones. One of my coworkers said that NQRS is a much bigger deal on the phones than this job. Not sure if that is a good thing or bad thing, but it seems it's a good thing if there is less evaluations on you. During someone's probationary year though, they can let you go very easily though, so it's important to work hard, manage your time wisely, and always observe taxpayer's rights are being followed. Also, make sure to follow the IRM and the proper taxpayer contact protocol.
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#1674 Posted : Saturday, December 21, 2019 3:44:54 PM(UTC)
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For anyone hired in Waves 1,2, or 3, how are you liking the job?


I was hired in wave 2. I'll be leaving for Unit 3 training in January.

Honesty, the job is great. I spent 9 plus years answering the phones for the service. Compared to that this job is a dream. Except for one of my fellow new hires who's a pain in the ass.

A few helpful tips. Schedule in ics days to work on new cases and print out the ics summary screen and create your folder every monday. Check your statutes every Monday: let your manager and OJI of you have any within 12 months. Check your trust funds every Monday.

I'm finding being flexible with deadlines helps me more than them: but I always have two deadlines so I can issue my L3164 unless they dont meet the 2246 deadline.

But like I said, the jobs awesome. I dont ever dread Monday's, but there is never enough time in the day on busy days.




Glad you are enjoying it. I definitely agree there isn't enough hours in the day to finish everything you need. During the first year, comp time isn't a thing, so you just leave work at your cubicle, and get to it the next day you are in. I also know that different GM's like different things so it is important to know what your GM wants. They are the one's doing the EQRS and as you said, scheduling is important because this job is all about judgement and time management.

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#1675 Posted : Sunday, December 22, 2019 10:43:01 PM(UTC)
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For anyone hired in Waves 1,2, or 3, how are you liking the job?


I was hired in wave 2. I'll be leaving for Unit 3 training in January.

Honesty, the job is great. I spent 9 plus years answering the phones for the service. Compared to that this job is a dream. Except for one of my fellow new hires who's a pain in the ass.

A few helpful tips. Schedule in ics days to work on new cases and print out the ics summary screen and create your folder every monday. Check your statutes every Monday: let your manager and OJI of you have any within 12 months. Check your trust funds every Monday.

I'm finding being flexible with deadlines helps me more than them: but I always have two deadlines so I can issue my L3164 unless they dont meet the 2246 deadline.

But like I said, the jobs awesome. I dont ever dread Monday's, but there is never enough time in the day on busy days.




Glad you are enjoying it. I definitely agree there isn't enough hours in the day to finish everything you need. During the first year, comp time isn't a thing, so you just leave work at your cubicle, and get to it the next day you are in. I also know that different GM's like different things so it is important to know what your GM wants. They are the one's doing the EQRS and as you said, scheduling is important because this job is all about judgement and time management.



It sounds like you both enjoy the job and are doing all the right things. That is good to hear.
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#1676 Posted : Tuesday, December 24, 2019 6:54:10 AM(UTC)
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Most manager don’t want you on the phones.

This is a field job. And in the face position.

You work the field not the phones.
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#1677 Posted : Tuesday, December 24, 2019 10:56:15 AM(UTC)
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Most manager don’t want you on the phones.

This is a field job. And in the face position.

You work the field not the phones.


Once you are off probation, telework and you have a stable amount of case inventory, I agree. It's important to be in the field at minimum 2 days maybe even 3 minimum a week. However, if you are on probation and your cases are far away and you are not allowed to go out on your own yet, it's up to your manager and OJI when to go out so it's not as much a field job then, but maybe a preparation for going out into the field job with field visits sprinkled in until you are cut loose. Our manager wants us in the office twice a pay period. Now, technically, field time is considered office work, but it sometimes is easier to do work in the office because there is more materials and if you have a shared administrative associate, they can help with sending out returns and remittance you collect. Otherwise, having your own UPS account is paramount if you can't get back to the POD.

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Most manager don’t want you on the phones.

This is a field job. And in the face position.

You work the field not the phones.


I'm well aware.. I'm very thankful I'm not on the phones anymore.

How often are you in the field?
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#1679 Posted : Thursday, January 2, 2020 7:19:41 AM(UTC)
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Most manager don’t want you on the phones.

This is a field job. And in the face position.

You work the field not the phones.


Once you are off probation, telework and you have a stable amount of case inventory, I agree. It's important to be in the field at minimum 2 days maybe even 3 minimum a week. However, if you are on probation and your cases are far away and you are not allowed to go out on your own yet, it's up to your manager and OJI when to go out so it's not as much a field job then, but maybe a preparation for going out into the field job with field visits sprinkled in until you are cut loose. Our manager wants us in the office twice a pay period. Now, technically, field time is considered office work, but it sometimes is easier to do work in the office because there is more materials and if you have a shared administrative associate, they can help with sending out returns and remittance you collect. Otherwise, having your own UPS account is paramount if you can't get back to the POD.



You’re not out in the field by yourselves yet?

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#1680 Posted : Thursday, January 2, 2020 12:05:04 PM(UTC)
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Most manager don’t want you on the phones.

This is a field job. And in the face position.

You work the field not the phones.


Once you are off probation, telework and you have a stable amount of case inventory, I agree. It's important to be in the field at minimum 2 days maybe even 3 minimum a week. However, if you are on probation and your cases are far away and you are not allowed to go out on your own yet, it's up to your manager and OJI when to go out so it's not as much a field job then, but maybe a preparation for going out into the field job with field visits sprinkled in until you are cut loose. Our manager wants us in the office twice a pay period. Now, technically, field time is considered office work, but it sometimes is easier to do work in the office because there is more materials and if you have a shared administrative associate, they can help with sending out returns and remittance you collect. Otherwise, having your own UPS account is paramount if you can't get back to the POD.



You’re not out in the field by yourselves yet?



I have been out by myself but I know some trainees that have not and they have been working for 8 months that still go out with their OJI's. From what I have heard, there is a training book managers and OJI's are given for this hiring but it seems like not many have followed it because every POD is doing it differently.
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