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JayMan06  
#341 Posted : Saturday, November 23, 2019 5:25:28 AM(UTC)
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https://www.usajobs.gov/GetJob/ViewDetails/552620000


Looks like it posted today.


Just got the email, thanks for the heads up.

I've been told that in long announcements they review and process applications in batches based on specific cutoff dayes. Do you have any info regarding when the first cutoff is?
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#342 Posted : Saturday, November 23, 2019 9:21:35 AM(UTC)
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No idea on timing for first cutoff. I think if anyone applies to the locations that really need people they will start processing as soon as they can.
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#343 Posted : Saturday, November 23, 2019 3:12:19 PM(UTC)
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Couple questions... for the vacancy question one of them asked if I have atleast 24 accounting semester hours while another option was atleast 15 accounting hours and additionally 9 semester hours business, finance, tax law etc hours.

Which is the "better" selection choice if I have both? I majored accounting. The job post actually said the latter part, but another section said 24 accounting hours of which 9 have to be business, finance, tax law etc.

Also, for anyone with internal knowledge, which are the locations where they desire most SA? I am willing to move anywhere for this specific 1811 position. I am assuming its probably big metro areas like Chicago, LA, Dallas, etc?

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#344 Posted : Saturday, November 23, 2019 3:31:21 PM(UTC)
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I would go with 24 hours in accounting. And as far as the locations it seems the bigger metro areas get more applicants...i applied for a smaller metro area and they still need people. I think if you dpnt care where you go try to think of the spots that people wont be applying to and apply there.
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#345 Posted : Saturday, November 23, 2019 3:33:36 PM(UTC)
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If you think you can't afford to live there, it's a good bet they are short on agents.
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#346 Posted : Saturday, November 23, 2019 6:40:06 PM(UTC)
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I'm currently a local prosecutor looking to switch to an 1811 position. Already applied to Postal and FBI. I specialize in fraud cases, including tax fraud at the state level. However, I don't have any formal education in tax or accounting. Just my JD and on the job fraud prosecution experience (and a CFE certification.

In reading the new announcement, it looks like I would qualify for the GL-07 level, but not the 09 level. My question is does anyone with zero formal accounting education ever get hired as an IRS-CI? I suppose it's technically possible based on the minimum qualifications, but I'm curious if anyone knows if it is realistic.

It's not hard to apply so I might as well - just looking for input on my background.
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#347 Posted : Sunday, November 24, 2019 4:35:55 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: AnotherLawyer Go to Quoted Post
I'm currently a local prosecutor looking to switch to an 1811 position. Already applied to Postal and FBI. I specialize in fraud cases, including tax fraud at the state level. However, I don't have any formal education in tax or accounting. Just my JD and on the job fraud prosecution experience (and a CFE certification.

In reading the new announcement, it looks like I would qualify for the GL-07 level, but not the 09 level. My question is does anyone with zero formal accounting education ever get hired as an IRS-CI? I suppose it's technically possible based on the minimum qualifications, but I'm curious if anyone knows if it is realistic.

It's not hard to apply so I might as well - just looking for input on my background.


You must have the accounting credits.
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#348 Posted : Sunday, November 24, 2019 4:40:34 AM(UTC)
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I'm currently a local prosecutor looking to switch to an 1811 position. Already applied to Postal and FBI. I specialize in fraud cases, including tax fraud at the state level. However, I don't have any formal education in tax or accounting. Just my JD and on the job fraud prosecution experience (and a CFE certification.

In reading the new announcement, it looks like I would qualify for the GL-07 level, but not the 09 level. My question is does anyone with zero formal accounting education ever get hired as an IRS-CI? I suppose it's technically possible based on the minimum qualifications, but I'm curious if anyone knows if it is realistic.

It's not hard to apply so I might as well - just looking for input on my background.


You must have the accounting credits.


One person in my class had 0 accounting credits but did have actual work experience investigating tax fraud on the state level and even worked a couple cases with IRS-CI. It’s possible but IRS is very picky about it.

If I were you, I would take some accounting classes. Apply anyway but definitely highlight your experience working tax fraud cases.

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#349 Posted : Sunday, November 24, 2019 4:44:04 AM(UTC)
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I'm currently a local prosecutor looking to switch to an 1811 position. Already applied to Postal and FBI. I specialize in fraud cases, including tax fraud at the state level. However, I don't have any formal education in tax or accounting. Just my JD and on the job fraud prosecution experience (and a CFE certification.

In reading the new announcement, it looks like I would qualify for the GL-07 level, but not the 09 level. My question is does anyone with zero formal accounting education ever get hired as an IRS-CI? I suppose it's technically possible based on the minimum qualifications, but I'm curious if anyone knows if it is realistic.

It's not hard to apply so I might as well - just looking for input on my background.


You must have the accounting credits.


One person in my class had 0 accounting credits but did have actual work experience investigating tax fraud on the state level and even worked a couple cases with IRS-CI. It’s possible but IRS is very picky about it.

If I were you, I would take some accounting classes. Apply anyway but definitely highlight your experience working tax fraud cases.


Was he/she an internal?
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#350 Posted : Sunday, November 24, 2019 4:52:59 AM(UTC)
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Being that they posted a new announcement, is it safe to say that they’re not considering anyone else that interviewed within the last 2 months?

Would they update USAJOBS as not considered/selected?
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#351 Posted : Sunday, November 24, 2019 6:10:37 AM(UTC)
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I'm currently a local prosecutor looking to switch to an 1811 position. Already applied to Postal and FBI. I specialize in fraud cases, including tax fraud at the state level. However, I don't have any formal education in tax or accounting. Just my JD and on the job fraud prosecution experience (and a CFE certification.

In reading the new announcement, it looks like I would qualify for the GL-07 level, but not the 09 level. My question is does anyone with zero formal accounting education ever get hired as an IRS-CI? I suppose it's technically possible based on the minimum qualifications, but I'm curious if anyone knows if it is realistic.

It's not hard to apply so I might as well - just looking for input on my background.


You must have the accounting credits.


One person in my class had 0 accounting credits but did have actual work experience investigating tax fraud on the state level and even worked a couple cases with IRS-CI. It’s possible but IRS is very picky about it.

If I were you, I would take some accounting classes. Apply anyway but definitely highlight your experience working tax fraud cases.


Was he/she an internal?


External.
9L81  
#352 Posted : Sunday, November 24, 2019 9:02:36 AM(UTC)
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Being that they posted a new announcement, is it safe to say that they’re not considering anyone else that interviewed within the last 2 months?

Would they update USAJOBS as not considered/selected?


Probably moved on. I know my FO has.
cooljul  
#353 Posted : Sunday, November 24, 2019 9:22:49 AM(UTC)
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Being that they posted a new announcement, is it safe to say that they’re not considering anyone else that interviewed within the last 2 months?

Would they update USAJOBS as not considered/selected?


No i bet this is a new wave for more new agents, I don’t think they’re finished with the old announcement
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#354 Posted : Sunday, November 24, 2019 12:15:09 PM(UTC)
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My understanding of the announcement is that the accounting credits are only required if you're qualifying solely based on education.

An older thread said that this was a public trust position. This announcement says that this requires a top secret security clearance. Is this new?
trek123  
#355 Posted : Sunday, November 24, 2019 3:45:01 PM(UTC)
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There is no study guide for the kase test right? Like how the DEA/FBI/HSI etc have one
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#356 Posted : Sunday, November 24, 2019 7:56:21 PM(UTC)
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I'm currently a local prosecutor looking to switch to an 1811 position. Already applied to Postal and FBI. I specialize in fraud cases, including tax fraud at the state level. However, I don't have any formal education in tax or accounting. Just my JD and on the job fraud prosecution experience (and a CFE certification.

In reading the new announcement, it looks like I would qualify for the GL-07 level, but not the 09 level. My question is does anyone with zero formal accounting education ever get hired as an IRS-CI? I suppose it's technically possible based on the minimum qualifications, but I'm curious if anyone knows if it is realistic.

It's not hard to apply so I might as well - just looking for input on my background.


You must have the accounting credits.


One person in my class had 0 accounting credits but did have actual work experience investigating tax fraud on the state level and even worked a couple cases with IRS-CI. It’s possible but IRS is very picky about it.

If I were you, I would take some accounting classes. Apply anyway but definitely highlight your experience working tax fraud cases.


Would you take courses and then apply, or apply and take the courses while you are in the process? I work full time, so classes would have to be nights/weekends.

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#357 Posted : Sunday, November 24, 2019 10:27:06 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: AnotherLawyer Go to Quoted Post
I'm currently a local prosecutor looking to switch to an 1811 position. Already applied to Postal and FBI. I specialize in fraud cases, including tax fraud at the state level. However, I don't have any formal education in tax or accounting. Just my JD and on the job fraud prosecution experience (and a CFE certification.

In reading the new announcement, it looks like I would qualify for the GL-07 level, but not the 09 level. My question is does anyone with zero formal accounting education ever get hired as an IRS-CI? I suppose it's technically possible based on the minimum qualifications, but I'm curious if anyone knows if it is realistic.

It's not hard to apply so I might as well - just looking for input on my background.


You must have the accounting credits.


One person in my class had 0 accounting credits but did have actual work experience investigating tax fraud on the state level and even worked a couple cases with IRS-CI. It’s possible but IRS is very picky about it.

If I were you, I would take some accounting classes. Apply anyway but definitely highlight your experience working tax fraud cases.


Would you take courses and then apply, or apply and take the courses while you are in the process? I work full time, so classes would have to be nights/weekends.



I would personally get the credits first. It’s a 12 month continuous roster so it’s not like you don’t have time. That CFE, although it’s good to have, will not affect your application one way or another.
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#358 Posted : Monday, November 25, 2019 6:40:03 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: CityUSA Go to Quoted Post
Being that they posted a new announcement, is it safe to say that they’re not considering anyone else that interviewed within the last 2 months?

Would they update USAJOBS as not considered/selected?


I got a call from the office where I interviewed saying they were hoping to have a response for me by the middle of November but it got delayed with HR.

I'm hoping that's a good sign if they reached out rather than just leave me hanging.
JayMan06  
#359 Posted : Monday, November 25, 2019 6:56:46 AM(UTC)
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Being that they posted a new announcement, is it safe to say that they’re not considering anyone else that interviewed within the last 2 months?

Would they update USAJOBS as not considered/selected?


I got a call from the office where I interviewed saying they were hoping to have a response for me by the middle of November but it got delayed with HR.

I'm hoping that's a good sign if they reached out rather than just leave me hanging.


In late October/early November my contacts told me that as far as they knew, not all decisions were made regarding the Feb 2019 announcement. I am not sure why TOs and FOs would go out so quickly if they have not finished considering all the candidates, but there may be some sort of delay at some offices. So far, I don't know of anyone interviewing in DC getting any type of offer.

That said, it doesn't hurt to apply again.

Edited by user Monday, November 25, 2019 6:57:34 AM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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#360 Posted : Monday, November 25, 2019 7:11:09 AM(UTC)
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I think the qualification questions for the new posting are a little more stringent than last year's job posting. I've been a Revenue Agent for 7 years with a bachelors in accounting, but I can't qualify due to the GPA.
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