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clearancedude101  
#481 Posted : Thursday, October 10, 2019 8:27:16 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Pony Sprinkles Go to Quoted Post
At the same time, I think one shouldn't forget to update the security-processing team to prevent any more delays if you end up taking another job (which seems to be a good idea while one waits).


I got married and started a new job about a year ago, and my recruiter said to just contact the BI. I did, and he said he had sent in my security packet for review, and that it was out of his hands so he didn't need it. When I told my recruiter that, they said they'd need that info only once the final clearance comes through.
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#482 Posted : Thursday, October 10, 2019 12:51:44 PM(UTC)
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Can someone on here remind me what happens if the DoD finally approves your security clearance but your position is by then filled at the agency.
1.) Do you just get put on a wait list, or what does the agency do with you?
2.) Can you still use that security clearance now to apply to other positions at different companies?
3.) How often does this happen "mess" happen?
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veggiefed  
#483 Posted : Thursday, October 10, 2019 4:59:24 PM(UTC)
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Hi all. I've been lurking for over a year and finally joined to share my timeline. I hope it's helpful! I had pretty much written the opportunity off after not hearing anything so long after my initial application. Once I got an operational interview and CJO, though, things moved along pretty smoothly. Compared to some of the nightmarish timelines I've seen, mine was a breeze. I got my master's degree in the UK and had some travel to Canada, but other than that, my life is pretty quiet. (Side note: I was offered 2 positions in the same department. I accepted both CJOs and planned to choose at the end of the process. Well, they restructured midway through my process, and ended up changing both to the same position. It didn't affect anything with my timeline.)

07/18 – Applied
12/18 – Contacted for 2 operational interviews
01/19 – Interviews
02/19 – CJO x 2
03/19 – E-qip completed
04/19 – Security interview with investigator
04/19-5/19 – References contacted
07/19 – Polygraph (one and done!)
08/19 – Psych Assessment (including a couple of extra weeks where I had to provide some follow-up forms from my providers)
09/19 – Notified that I'm cleared, the position is open, and an FJO is coming
10/19 – FJO
11/19 – EOD

Edited by user Thursday, October 10, 2019 4:59:59 PM(UTC)  | Reason: Spelling

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LDomino  
#484 Posted : Thursday, October 10, 2019 6:33:29 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: veggiefed Go to Quoted Post
Hi all. I've been lurking for over a year and finally joined to share my timeline. I hope it's helpful! I had pretty much written the opportunity off after not hearing anything so long after my initial application. Once I got an operational interview and CJO, though, things moved along pretty smoothly. Compared to some of the nightmarish timelines I've seen, mine was a breeze. I got my master's degree in the UK and had some travel to Canada, but other than that, my life is pretty quiet. (Side note: I was offered 2 positions in the same department. I accepted both CJOs and planned to choose at the end of the process. Well, they restructured midway through my process, and ended up changing both to the same position. It didn't affect anything with my timeline.)

07/18 – Applied
12/18 – Contacted for 2 operational interviews
01/19 – Interviews
02/19 – CJO x 2
03/19 – E-qip completed
04/19 – Security interview with investigator
04/19-5/19 – References contacted
07/19 – Polygraph (one and done!)
08/19 – Psych Assessment (including a couple of extra weeks where I had to provide some follow-up forms from my providers)
09/19 – Notified that I'm cleared, the position is open, and an FJO is coming
10/19 – FJO
11/19 – EOD


Damn that's fast. Technical position?
veggiefed  
#485 Posted : Thursday, October 10, 2019 6:36:50 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: veggiefed Go to Quoted Post
Hi all. I've been lurking for over a year and finally joined to share my timeline. I hope it's helpful! I had pretty much written the opportunity off after not hearing anything so long after my initial application. Once I got an operational interview and CJO, though, things moved along pretty smoothly. Compared to some of the nightmarish timelines I've seen, mine was a breeze. I got my master's degree in the UK and had some travel to Canada, but other than that, my life is pretty quiet. (Side note: I was offered 2 positions in the same department. I accepted both CJOs and planned to choose at the end of the process. Well, they restructured midway through my process, and ended up changing both to the same position. It didn't affect anything with my timeline.)

07/18 – Applied
12/18 – Contacted for 2 operational interviews
01/19 – Interviews
02/19 – CJO x 2
03/19 – E-qip completed
04/19 – Security interview with investigator
04/19-5/19 – References contacted
07/19 – Polygraph (one and done!)
08/19 – Psych Assessment (including a couple of extra weeks where I had to provide some follow-up forms from my providers)
09/19 – Notified that I'm cleared, the position is open, and an FJO is coming
10/19 – FJO
11/19 – EOD


Damn that's fast. Technical position?


Communications and public affairs. It's fast compared to others, but it still felt like ages! Fortunately my current employer has been supportive and understanding throughout.
Dingo1  
#486 Posted : Friday, October 11, 2019 4:23:53 AM(UTC)
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@veggiefed psych evaluation was separate trip from poly ? Can you describe your day with psych? I completed (passed) poly no psych still waiting
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#487 Posted : Friday, October 11, 2019 2:44:41 PM(UTC)
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@veggiefed psych evaluation was separate trip from poly ? Can you describe your day with psych? I completed (passed) poly no psych still waiting


It was separate for me, but that isn't always the case. I think it mostly depends on scheduling availability on their end. I'm presuming that they do everything all in the same day for people they fly in, but the rest of us may or may not be on the same day. Personally, I'm glad they were two separate days. It's all mentally tiring.

Psych was an assessment on the computer followed by meeting with a psychologist (psychiatrist? I don't remember which one it was). Be prepared to answer a lot of personal questions, and as always, be honest!

If you have ever seen a doctor, therapist, counselor, etc. of any nature for reasons that *aren't* exempted (there are exclusions such as grief counseling, abuse counseling, etc. Same as the exclusions listed on the SF-86), those providers have to fill out a form and send it back to the agency. It's your responsibility to provide the forms and the instructions (you'll get them from the psychologist)and make sure the providers fax it back. Oh, and if you show up ready with names and dates of when you were seen/in treatment, that will make things go more smoothly!
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#488 Posted : Monday, October 14, 2019 11:47:51 AM(UTC)
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Here is my timeline for a STEM job:
May 2018: Applied for job
June 2018: Took and passed proficiency exam
July 2018: Submitted Online Introductory Technical Interview
August 2018: Received and accepted CJO
September 2018: Submitted SF-86
February 2019: Submitted additional info for SF-86
March 2019: Contact from recruiter saying initial review of SF-86 has begun
September 2019: Emailed additional requests for security processing


Holy moly! And here I am thinking about hearing from them sometime this month! Such a naive, humbug thought!

Out of curiosity, have you lived abroad a lot?


I studied abroad for a year while in college; that's pretty much the extent of my travel. I also have some relatives abroad but I don't know them very well, which may complicate things because most of my answers to Security's questions were "I don't know."
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#489 Posted : Tuesday, October 15, 2019 11:40:09 AM(UTC)
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3/19 Applied
4/19 interview
4/19 CJO
4/19 Submitted sf86
4/19 requested clarification for sf86
5/19 soft credit pull
5/19 met with BI and and references contacted
10/19 Scheduled poly + psych
11/19 Scheduled for poly + psych

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0x41  
#490 Posted : Wednesday, October 16, 2019 7:41:53 PM(UTC)
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Timeline so far:

12/18 - Apply
01/19 - Register for CNT
02/19 - Take CNT
03/19 - Operational Interview
5/19 - CJO Extended
7/19 - CJO Email Recvd/Eqip/SF86 Submitted
8/19 - Met with BI
9/19 - Confirmed BI met with other references
10/19 - Onsite Poly/Psych - Pass

Concerns: I forgot to mention on my SF-86 two vocational schools I attended for a field I no longer work in and that was about 9 years ago. I only included my High School and College I recently graduated from. I mentioned this during my poly as during the psych test it mentioned other certification I may have received from another school and it hit me that I forgot to mention the vocational training. I had no disciplinary actions at either school. I mentioned that in my poly prior to testing and mentioned that the psych questions triggered me remembering that I forgot to include.

During the psych and poly, I also mentioned my illegal downloading; last instance 3 years ago. Mentioned I felt it was wrong to steal and felt guilty for stealing art from artist I really enjoyed their works. It wasn't fair to them and have since purchased all of my media that had been illegally downloaded in the past. I have also deleted all illegal material around 3 years ago. I mentioned the illegal downloads during the psych and poly prior to testing because the psych requested that info where I didn't really see a place to include on the SF-86.

In anyone's experience, am I SOL?

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#491 Posted : Thursday, October 17, 2019 9:06:37 AM(UTC)
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They asked me about illegal downloading music which I admitted to, and they simply asked me if I was willing to stop and of course I said yes. That's as far as it went. If they refuse to hire anyone who has done even that, there probably isn't anyone left in the country who is eligible.

As for the SF86, you should probably email your HR person and let them know ASAP.
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#492 Posted : Thursday, October 17, 2019 5:17:57 PM(UTC)
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Thanks @not_real_throwaway. I've reached out to my HR POCs and they said they don't believe I should be concerned.
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#493 Posted : Friday, October 18, 2019 5:29:09 AM(UTC)
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Timeline so far:

12/18 - Apply
01/19 - Register for CNT
02/19 - Take CNT
03/19 - Operational Interview
5/19 - CJO Extended
7/19 - CJO Email Recvd/Eqip/SF86 Submitted
8/19 - Met with BI
9/19 - Confirmed BI met with other references
10/19 - Onsite Poly/Psych - Pass

Concerns: I forgot to mention on my SF-86 two vocational schools I attended for a field I no longer work in and that was about 9 years ago. I only included my High School and College I recently graduated from. I mentioned this during my poly as during the psych test it mentioned other certification I may have received from another school and it hit me that I forgot to mention the vocational training. I had no disciplinary actions at either school. I mentioned that in my poly prior to testing and mentioned that the psych questions triggered me remembering that I forgot to include.

During the psych and poly, I also mentioned my illegal downloading; last instance 3 years ago. Mentioned I felt it was wrong to steal and felt guilty for stealing art from artist I really enjoyed their works. It wasn't fair to them and have since purchased all of my media that had been illegally downloaded in the past. I have also deleted all illegal material around 3 years ago. I mentioned the illegal downloads during the psych and poly prior to testing because the psych requested that info where I didn't really see a place to include on the SF-86.

In anyone's experience, am I SOL?


You are not SOL. Same thing happened to me. I went to so many schools over my military career I left some out as well. I also brought up tons of stuff not on the SF86. Key thing to remember here though is everything in the psych and the poly is considered part of your security package, that is why you see them taking notes. Good luck.

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#494 Posted : Friday, October 18, 2019 10:10:29 AM(UTC)
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Anyone else get a phone call from recruiting saying you are still in processing?
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#495 Posted : Friday, October 18, 2019 10:13:47 AM(UTC)
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Anyone else get a phone call from recruiting saying you are still in processing?


Yeah I got one early this month, about 70 days after I passed my poly.
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