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PlatRabbit  
#381 Posted : Monday, August 12, 2019 7:36:25 PM(UTC)
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Hello all,

I am going to share my journey to this point.

10/2018 (or thereabouts) - Applied to several positions
12/2018 - First interview
12/2018 - Prescreen interview
12/2018 - Sent in transcripts and DD214
1/2019 - CJO
1/2019 - E-qip sent and SF-86 completed
2/2019 - Interview for another position
2/2019 - CJO
2/2019 - Took CNT
3/2019 - Face to face sit down with the investigator
3/2019 - Interview for the third and fourth position
3/2019 - CJO for position three of four
3/2019 - Scheduled for Poly, Psych, and HR Interview
4/2019 - Called to be informed of fourth CJO coming soon
4/2019 - Second face to face sit down with the investigator
Now...just waiting

My recruiters have been very helpful at every step in this process. For those wondering, I am former military and have literally no social life (lol) outside of my wife, children, and family. I guess it pays to be boring. Thanks to all others who have shared.


4/2019 - Passed poly and sending requested docs for psych


4/2019 - Psych Eval completed


7/2019 - Cleared security
8/2019 - FJO accepted
9/2019 - EOD

It was a long process but staying in communication with the recruiters made it easier. For those who are wondering, I accepted a STEM position.


Congrats! Was the FJO the same salary as the CJO? Did you get a chance to negotiate?


You always have an opportunity to negotiate if you have something you did not during the CJO. I negotiated at CJO and was content.


That's good, becuase the CJO is putting me at a GG level which is about the same money as a GS level that requires a bachelors and 1 year of related-field work experience, but I have a masters and 3 years of experience, so I certainly want the chance to address this. I mentioned it to my HR recruiter and they basically said my masters won't count becuase it's in a totally different field to the job (which is not even remotely true, it's not the exact right degree but it's at least close) and also that my work experience doesn't count becuase it's academic (which is total BS, it was actual research in a reasonably similar field to the job I'm applying to, not classwork). The recruiter also said I may have the opportunity to discuss this with a technical/scientific team member near the FJO stage, but honestly that sounds like a "this is what you're getting but I don't want to have to personally argue with it so I'll just tell you something to get you to shut up" response.


I heard that from one or two recruiters, but just let them know you would like them to negotiate regardless on your behalf. The answer can only be "yes" or "no." I found that some recruiters are better than others, but that is the truth in everything. Rewrite your resume to reflect everything, EVERYTHING, EVERYTHING you feel is relevant to the job. Did I mention not to leave out any relevant information you want to be considered toward your salary negotiation? List everything. Then resubmit it to them, but be sure to let them know before and after you resubmit it. I hope that helps.
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#382 Posted : Tuesday, August 13, 2019 8:00:47 AM(UTC)
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Has anyone had a reference canceled on because they “had enough references”? A close friend I submitted for my school reference was given an appointment, then canceled on because they were told they had enough references... my neighbor, however, still has an appointment next week.
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#383 Posted : Tuesday, August 13, 2019 8:09:19 AM(UTC)
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Has anyone had a reference canceled on because they “had enough references”? A close friend I submitted for my school reference was given an appointment, then canceled on because they were told they had enough references... my neighbor, however, still has an appointment next week.


My best friend, former roommate, and classmate (the person who knows me the best of anyone in this world) was not contacted for an interview even after I listed him on the SF86 and explained our very close relationship. I suppose that the reason could be that we're 'too close,' but I still found it odd. Ultimately, the investigators just need to contact people who can check off the boxes and who will have generally uncomplicated answers. Most likely if they find something that is concerning or requires further information, they may reach out to your friend for that purpose.

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thebigone2087 on 8/13/2019(UTC)
KLS25  
#384 Posted : Thursday, August 15, 2019 8:31:45 AM(UTC)
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Accepted CJO and did security paperwork in late April. I just got the automated email that I have entered suitability process, which I thought I have been in since my credit was pulled around that time. How long after that have people been contacted to do psych/poly? Is this when the so called 4-6 months timeline "starts"?
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#385 Posted : Thursday, August 15, 2019 8:37:05 AM(UTC)
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Accepted CJO and did security paperwork in late April. I just got the automated email that I have entered suitability process, which I thought I have been in since my credit was pulled around that time. How long after that have people been contacted to do psych/poly? Is this when the so called 4-6 months timeline "starts"?


It's a bit different for everybody, but for me...

- CJO in March. Told 6-9 month total process, but like you, I don't know when that 6-9 month process starts.
- Paperwork in April
- Met Background investigator in late April + Early May
- Nothing until July. Early July, they told me I am in suitability and that they'll schedule my poly "soon". Mid July, they told me I was scheduled for Psych/Poly in August. Failed Poly and now I'm waiting for them to schedule my next one. Still have no idea where I am in the process. Is it 6-9 months after I pass my poly? 6-9 months from March (which is almost over at this point)? It's a mystery.
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#386 Posted : Thursday, August 15, 2019 9:46:49 AM(UTC)
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How does somebody fail a poly that's my question
KLS25  
#387 Posted : Thursday, August 15, 2019 9:55:44 AM(UTC)
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How does somebody fail a poly that's my question


I was told in my interview that no one "fails" a poly. Its just that they didn't get enough data on you, or enough for someone to make a decision.
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#388 Posted : Thursday, August 15, 2019 1:00:48 PM(UTC)
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Accepted CJO and did security paperwork in late April. I just got the automated email that I have entered suitability process, which I thought I have been in since my credit was pulled around that time. How long after that have people been contacted to do psych/poly? Is this when the so called 4-6 months timeline "starts"?


Failed Poly and now I'm waiting for them to schedule my next one. Still have no idea where I am in the process.


Did they say “fail” or did they say “inconclusive”?
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#389 Posted : Thursday, August 15, 2019 4:27:44 PM(UTC)
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Accepted CJO and did security paperwork in late April. I just got the automated email that I have entered suitability process, which I thought I have been in since my credit was pulled around that time. How long after that have people been contacted to do psych/poly? Is this when the so called 4-6 months timeline "starts"?


Failed Poly and now I'm waiting for them to schedule my next one. Still have no idea where I am in the process.


Did they say “fail” or did they say “inconclusive”?


Neither, I took two and both of them just said things like "we didn't get through it".
Badfish5446  
#390 Posted : Monday, August 19, 2019 2:19:39 PM(UTC)
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8/19/2019 contacted by recruiter stating their “schedulers are working with high volume” and they thank me for remaining patient and hopes I get scheduled soon. For record, CJO 4/2019 and finished BI end of 6/2019
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thebigone2087  
#391 Posted : Wednesday, August 21, 2019 10:10:34 AM(UTC)
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Received an email from my recruiter yesterday that I am being handed off to a NEW recruiter. Looks like they hired a few new folks to more evenly distribute the work load. Hopefully that’s good news for all of us.
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rkf4ever on 8/21/2019(UTC)
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#392 Posted : Wednesday, August 21, 2019 11:08:42 AM(UTC)
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Received an email from my recruiter yesterday that I am being handed off to a NEW recruiter. Looks like they hired a few new folks to more evenly distribute the work load. Hopefully that’s good news for all of us.


That’s funny because I received an email from my recruiter stating she can now give me more attention since they hired more recruiters to deal with everyone. Small world.
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rkf4ever on 8/21/2019(UTC)
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#393 Posted : Thursday, August 22, 2019 12:18:12 PM(UTC)
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Hey all,

Timeline updates for those that like to commiserate:

Application: Early January 2017
Contacted for testing: Late January 2017
Phone Screen: March 2017
Operational Interview and CJO: Late March 2017
Security Forms Submissions: May 2017
BI Initiation (Credit pull, references contacted): Late May 2017
BI Interview: June 2017
Security Interview: 22,23 July 2019
Poly/Psych: 25 July 2019 (Passed)

I'm assuming nothing left except for waiting on adjudication at this point, which I have heard takes anywhere from 3 months to a year. Baby steps...
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BatDog123 on 8/22/2019(UTC), rkf4ever on 8/22/2019(UTC), Armomancer on 8/22/2019(UTC)
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#394 Posted : Friday, August 23, 2019 3:43:31 PM(UTC)
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Hey all,

Timeline updates for those that like to commiserate:

Application: Early January 2017
Contacted for testing: Late January 2017
Phone Screen: March 2017
Operational Interview and CJO: Late March 2017
Security Forms Submissions: May 2017
BI Initiation (Credit pull, references contacted): Late May 2017
BI Interview: June 2017
Security Interview: 22,23 July 2019
Poly/Psych: 25 July 2019 (Passed)

I'm assuming nothing left except for waiting on adjudication at this point, which I have heard takes anywhere from 3 months to a year. Baby steps...


Am I reading this right that between your BI investigator personal interview and your “security interview” and your poly/psych, two years elapsed?! 😮. I have my poly/pysch next month with DIA and had BI interview this week and received CJO in July. Also have NSA offer and NSA is my first choice, so hopefully they can use my DIA investigation since its moving along so I don’t have to wait 2 years. I’m a current fed FWIW.
LDomino  
#395 Posted : Saturday, August 24, 2019 6:30:11 AM(UTC)
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Hey all,

Timeline updates for those that like to commiserate:

Application: Early January 2017
Contacted for testing: Late January 2017
Phone Screen: March 2017
Operational Interview and CJO: Late March 2017
Security Forms Submissions: May 2017
BI Initiation (Credit pull, references contacted): Late May 2017
BI Interview: June 2017
Security Interview: 22,23 July 2019
Poly/Psych: 25 July 2019 (Passed)

I'm assuming nothing left except for waiting on adjudication at this point, which I have heard takes anywhere from 3 months to a year. Baby steps...


Am I reading this right that between your BI investigator personal interview and your “security interview” and your poly/psych, two years elapsed?! 😮. I have my poly/pysch next month with DIA and had BI interview this week and received CJO in July. Also have NSA offer and NSA is my first choice, so hopefully they can use my DIA investigation since its moving along so I don’t have to wait 2 years. I’m a current fed FWIW.


Hey there; yes, there is a two year gap between those periods. Not surprised really as it jives with many other experiences. From what I know I doubt your two processes will affect each other as they are for to different types of clearances. Your timeline will entirely depend on your personal circumstances. Good luck, it's likely a loooooong road.
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#396 Posted : Monday, August 26, 2019 5:19:21 AM(UTC)
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Did anyone else get a semi-scripted "status update" phone call over the weekend?
thebigone2087  
#397 Posted : Monday, August 26, 2019 5:26:15 AM(UTC)
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Did anyone else get a semi-scripted "status update" phone call over the weekend?


I did not.
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#398 Posted : Monday, August 26, 2019 7:24:07 AM(UTC)
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Hey all,

Timeline updates for those that like to commiserate:

Application: Early January 2017
Contacted for testing: Late January 2017
Phone Screen: March 2017
Operational Interview and CJO: Late March 2017
Security Forms Submissions: May 2017
BI Initiation (Credit pull, references contacted): Late May 2017
BI Interview: June 2017
Security Interview: 22,23 July 2019
Poly/Psych: 25 July 2019 (Passed)

I'm assuming nothing left except for waiting on adjudication at this point, which I have heard takes anywhere from 3 months to a year. Baby steps...


Am I reading this right that between your BI investigator personal interview and your “security interview” and your poly/psych, two years elapsed?! 😮. I have my poly/pysch next month with DIA and had BI interview this week and received CJO in July. Also have NSA offer and NSA is my first choice, so hopefully they can use my DIA investigation since its moving along so I don’t have to wait 2 years. I’m a current fed FWIW.


Hey there; yes, there is a two year gap between those periods. Not surprised really as it jives with many other experiences. From what I know I doubt your two processes will affect each other as they are for to different types of clearances. Your timeline will entirely depend on your personal circumstances. Good luck, it's likely a loooooong road.



You have a language position offer, right?

Also, what is the security interview? A friend of mine who's 4 months ahead of me in the process (we've had the exact same timelines so I use his as a gauge for mine) has those in a few days, but was told nothing about what they were, and they mentioned nothing about the poly/psych though we both assume that's part of it. Could you fill me in on what those interviews are all about?
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Hey all,

Timeline updates for those that like to commiserate:

Application: Early January 2017
Contacted for testing: Late January 2017
Phone Screen: March 2017
Operational Interview and CJO: Late March 2017
Security Forms Submissions: May 2017
BI Initiation (Credit pull, references contacted): Late May 2017
BI Interview: June 2017
Security Interview: 22,23 July 2019
Poly/Psych: 25 July 2019 (Passed)

I'm assuming nothing left except for waiting on adjudication at this point, which I have heard takes anywhere from 3 months to a year. Baby steps...


Am I reading this right that between your BI investigator personal interview and your “security interview” and your poly/psych, two years elapsed?! 😮. I have my poly/pysch next month with DIA and had BI interview this week and received CJO in July. Also have NSA offer and NSA is my first choice, so hopefully they can use my DIA investigation since its moving along so I don’t have to wait 2 years. I’m a current fed FWIW.


Hey there; yes, there is a two year gap between those periods. Not surprised really as it jives with many other experiences. From what I know I doubt your two processes will affect each other as they are for to different types of clearances. Your timeline will entirely depend on your personal circumstances. Good luck, it's likely a loooooong road.



You have a language position offer, right?

Also, what is the security interview? A friend of mine who's 4 months ahead of me in the process (we've had the exact same timelines so I use his as a gauge for mine) has those in a few days, but was told nothing about what they were, and they mentioned nothing about the poly/psych though we both assume that's part of it. Could you fill me in on what those interviews are all about?


Hey ClearanceDude,

The security interview is a more in-depth discussion regarding details of your background. It is not the same thing as your poly/psych, as those are scheduled separately.
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#400 Posted : Monday, August 26, 2019 10:06:30 AM(UTC)
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Hey all,

Timeline updates for those that like to commiserate:

Application: Early January 2017
Contacted for testing: Late January 2017
Phone Screen: March 2017
Operational Interview and CJO: Late March 2017
Security Forms Submissions: May 2017
BI Initiation (Credit pull, references contacted): Late May 2017
BI Interview: June 2017
Security Interview: 22,23 July 2019
Poly/Psych: 25 July 2019 (Passed)

I'm assuming nothing left except for waiting on adjudication at this point, which I have heard takes anywhere from 3 months to a year. Baby steps...


Am I reading this right that between your BI investigator personal interview and your “security interview” and your poly/psych, two years elapsed?! 😮. I have my poly/pysch next month with DIA and had BI interview this week and received CJO in July. Also have NSA offer and NSA is my first choice, so hopefully they can use my DIA investigation since its moving along so I don’t have to wait 2 years. I’m a current fed FWIW.


Hey there; yes, there is a two year gap between those periods. Not surprised really as it jives with many other experiences. From what I know I doubt your two processes will affect each other as they are for to different types of clearances. Your timeline will entirely depend on your personal circumstances. Good luck, it's likely a loooooong road.



You have a language position offer, right?

Also, what is the security interview? A friend of mine who's 4 months ahead of me in the process (we've had the exact same timelines so I use his as a gauge for mine) has those in a few days, but was told nothing about what they were, and they mentioned nothing about the poly/psych though we both assume that's part of it. Could you fill me in on what those interviews are all about?


Hey ClearanceDude,

The security interview is a more in-depth discussion regarding details of your background. It is not the same thing as your poly/psych, as those are scheduled separately.


Was your poly scheduled beforehand by email, or did they just decide to do it while you were there?
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