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thebigone2087  
#421 Posted : Thursday, September 19, 2019 7:55:16 AM(UTC)
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Hi all, I’m a long time lurker and wanted to post my timeline.


04/19: in person interview with investigator and investigator begins contacting references
05/19: scheduled poly and psych



I met with my investigator 8/2 and almost everyone was contacted by the end of August. Nothing since for poly/psych. Hopefully I get it scheduled by November...


Hopefully, they get to you soon man! How did you know everyone else was contacted by end of August?


Haha I simply asked, or I got a message from them saying they had appointments.
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#422 Posted : Thursday, September 19, 2019 11:01:00 AM(UTC)
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Has anyone had any contact recently?

I know the fiscal year is coming to an end. Interesting to see if communication picks up again in October. Hopefully there are zero budget impacts on everyones processing.
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thebigone2087  
#423 Posted : Thursday, September 19, 2019 11:02:47 AM(UTC)
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Has anyone had any contact recently?

I know the fiscal year is coming to an end. Interesting to see if communication picks up again in October. Hopefully there are zero budget impacts on everyones processing.


Nothing for me. I was going to try and touch base with my recruiter in a week or two to see if there have been any updates.
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#424 Posted : Monday, September 23, 2019 2:05:41 PM(UTC)
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Updating

11/18: Applied
11/18: Told they'd schedule a math test soon
2/19: They actually scheduled the math test even though I'd been pestering them for 3 months
2/19: Take math test
3/19: Got CJO (at a pretty undervalued salary based on their own brackets and my credentials and experience, but told I can't negotiate until later), asked for e-qip forms. Three or four times between 3/19 and 5/19 they send e-qip back asking for trivial changes, which take about two hours to do each time
5/19: Told my forms were accepted and my investigation has started
5/19: Met an investigator in person and he talked to me + some of my friends and coworkers
7/19: Told I'm in suitability checking, polygraph and psych schedule for 8/19
8/19: Psych exams, failed polygraph, had "normal" job interviews with the team I'd be working with if I take the job, psychologist asked for some medical records which I got emailed to him by the end of the month. Team I'd be working with said they expect to finish their committee and voting on whether they want me or not in about 2-2.5 months.
9/19: Passed polygraph. Polygraph examiner said usually it's about 2 months after this to finish the process on the security side. No idea if that's accurate or not, he didn't seem like he was totally confident in that estimate.

After having my important interviews with the team I'd be working with, I think they went well and think I will get a FJO, but I hope it doesn't take until 2020... I also hope they agree to negotiate it since the CJO was not a fair or sufficient offer but they refused to negotiate at the time and said to wait until the FJO stage.

Edit: I also see people giving dates for their EOD. Sorry for the dumb question, but what's EOD stand for in this context?
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#425 Posted : Monday, September 23, 2019 2:26:33 PM(UTC)
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NSA timeline

Applied 1/15/19
Phone interview request 1/22/19
Phone interview 1/29/19
Operational interview scheduled 2/27/19
Operational interview 3/29/19
CJO call received 4/12/19
CJO paperwork received 4/19/19
eQIP received 6/21/19
eQIP submitted 6/22/19
Request for more information/ info submitted 6/24/19
Soft Credit Check 6/27/19


8/1/19 - Contacted by BI to schedule interview
8/2/19 - Scheduled interview with BI


9/23/19 - email from recruiter, poly/psych scheduled for end of October
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blugdog on 9/23/2019(UTC)
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#426 Posted : Monday, September 23, 2019 6:52:39 PM(UTC)
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Has anyone had any contact recently?

I know the fiscal year is coming to an end. Interesting to see if communication picks up again in October. Hopefully there are zero budget impacts on everyones processing.


Nothing for me either. I’m being hired as a contractor. I was told that I’m in “the evaluation stage”, so I’m hoping that is adjudication. I suspect I may hear something in October, hopefully.
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#427 Posted : Tuesday, September 24, 2019 5:01:55 AM(UTC)
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Edit: I also see people giving dates for their EOD. Sorry for the dumb question, but what's EOD stand for in this context?


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Pony Sprinkles  
#428 Posted : Tuesday, September 24, 2019 8:58:59 AM(UTC)
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Updating

11/18: Applied
11/18: Told they'd schedule a math test soon
2/19: They actually scheduled the math test even though I'd been pestering them for 3 months
2/19: Take math test
3/19: Got CJO (at a pretty undervalued salary based on their own brackets and my credentials and experience, but told I can't negotiate until later), asked for e-qip forms. Three or four times between 3/19 and 5/19 they send e-qip back asking for trivial changes, which take about two hours to do each time
5/19: Told my forms were accepted and my investigation has started
5/19: Met an investigator in person and he talked to me + some of my friends and coworkers
7/19: Told I'm in suitability checking, polygraph and psych schedule for 8/19
8/19: Psych exams, failed polygraph, had "normal" job interviews with the team I'd be working with if I take the job, psychologist asked for some medical records which I got emailed to him by the end of the month. Team I'd be working with said they expect to finish their committee and voting on whether they want me or not in about 2-2.5 months.
9/19: Passed polygraph. Polygraph examiner said usually it's about 2 months after this to finish the process on the security side. No idea if that's accurate or not, he didn't seem like he was totally confident in that estimate.


So they took the interview after the CJO?
Pony Sprinkles  
#429 Posted : Tuesday, September 24, 2019 9:00:46 AM(UTC)
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How does the investigator contact the applicant? Is it by phone/email? I sent my equip in June-July and again in Aug, but haven't yet been contacted about poly/psych.
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#430 Posted : Tuesday, September 24, 2019 9:15:20 AM(UTC)
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How does the investigator contact the applicant? Is it by phone/email? I sent my equip in June-July and again in Aug, but haven't yet been contacted about poly/psych.


For me personally, I was contacted by my investigator by phone 8 months after submitting my SF86. I also waited 4 months from submitting my SF86 before I was scheduled for the poly/psych. It took 76 days for my SF86 to be processed.

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#431 Posted : Tuesday, September 24, 2019 9:52:24 AM(UTC)
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For me personally, I was contacted by my investigator by phone 8 months after submitting my SF86. I also waited 4 months from submitting my SF86 before I was scheduled for the poly/psych. It took 76 days for my SF86 to be processed.


I see... Does one always get contacted by an investigator? It seems like I have already passed the ~3 month mark - can't wait to get scheduled for poly/psych/interview.

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#432 Posted : Tuesday, September 24, 2019 10:33:21 AM(UTC)
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For me personally, I was contacted by my investigator by phone 8 months after submitting my SF86. I also waited 4 months from submitting my SF86 before I was scheduled for the poly/psych. It took 76 days for my SF86 to be processed.


I see... Does one always get contacted by an investigator? It seems like I have already passed the ~3 month mark - can't wait to get scheduled for poly/psych/interview.


For a TS? Yes.

The day you submitted the SF86 is not the same day they processed it. You mentioned you sent your SF86 back in June/July, and then again in August? This means it has not been fully processed yet, if they asked for more.

I submitted my SF86 in December, they did not need any corrections/information and it wasn't finished being processed by them until early March. I only found out the exact date it had been submitted, because I coincidentally called my recruiter the next day and she could see. And then it wasn't until April that I got scheduled for my poly/psych.
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#433 Posted : Tuesday, September 24, 2019 3:42:06 PM(UTC)
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I've been hanging on here for a while and figured it was time to add my timeline to the mix...

9/20/2018 - Submitted application
4/10/2019 - Interview
5/28/2019 - Prescreen phone call
6/4/2019 - Transcripts and resume sent
6/11/2019 - CJO
6/28/2019 - SF-86 submitted
9/13/2019 - BI Interview
9/16-9/20 - Neighbors, friends, and professors contacted by investigators


My BI called yesterday and said investigation is complete and being sent to review. If I don't hear anything in two weeks, then the investigation portion has been completed and sent to the next step. Waiting to be scheduled for Poly & Psych. After waiting 8 months to hear back from my application, the last 3 months have felt pretty quick to go from SF-86 to the investigation portion being (almost/hopefully) complete. The waiting game continues! I appreciate everyone's timeline updates!

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NoStringsAttached  
#434 Posted : Wednesday, September 25, 2019 3:49:46 AM(UTC)
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So they took the interview after the CJO?


Yeah, for that type of position they give a CJO after passing a brutally hard math test. Then they fly you out for the interviews and processing before deciding if they want to give you a FJO.
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#435 Posted : Wednesday, September 25, 2019 6:58:45 AM(UTC)
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Yeah, for that type of position they give a CJO after passing a brutally hard math test. Then they fly you out for the interviews and processing before deciding if they want to give you a FJO.


Out of curiosity, are the interviews equally "brutally hard"?

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had "normal" job interviews with the team I'd be working with if I take the job


Out of curiosity, are the interviews equally "brutally hard"?


Doesn't sound like it. But I'm sure that depends on the people giving and taking the interviews.
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#437 Posted : Thursday, September 26, 2019 8:12:05 AM(UTC)
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I am curious about one more thing -- does having lived (for more than a year) in 5 different countries (in the past) significantly delay the security processing?
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#438 Posted : Thursday, September 26, 2019 8:19:01 AM(UTC)
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I am curious about one more thing -- does having lived (for more than a year) in 5 different countries (in the past) significantly delay the security processing?


Can't give you an exact answer for that as it varies widely on which countries you were in, why you were in them, etc. Generally linguists who have spent significant time abroad have the longest time getting their clearances. This is compounded with how many foreign contacts you have and maintain. I would encourage you to list all of your foreign contacts and dates of residence so that when your investigator meets with you, you can give him or her a copy.
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#439 Posted : Thursday, September 26, 2019 9:05:58 AM(UTC)
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Can't give you an exact answer for that as it varies widely on which countries you were in, why you were in them, etc. Generally linguists who have spent significant time abroad have the longest time getting their clearances. This is compounded with how many foreign contacts you have and maintain. I would encourage you to list all of your foreign contacts and dates of residence so that when your investigator meets with you, you can give him or her a copy.


Thanks. I have all that written down to the T (plus SF86 also has that in great detail). Any estimate of how long the clearance takes for such applicants? A rough estimate?

My stays abroad were for professional/work purposes only.
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#440 Posted : Thursday, September 26, 2019 9:08:48 AM(UTC)
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Can't give you an exact answer for that as it varies widely on which countries you were in, why you were in them, etc. Generally linguists who have spent significant time abroad have the longest time getting their clearances. This is compounded with how many foreign contacts you have and maintain. I would encourage you to list all of your foreign contacts and dates of residence so that when your investigator meets with you, you can give him or her a copy.


Thanks. I have all that written down to the T (plus SF86 also has that in great detail). Any estimate of how long the clearance takes for such applicants? A rough estimate?

My stays abroad were for professional/work purposes only.


I'd guess a while. I lived for several years in a not-so-friendly to the US country, and got my CJO back in Feb 2018. They still haven't scheduled my poly/psych. A friend of mine lived in the same place doing the same thing and applied 4 months ahead of me. He just had his poly last month. Our backgrounds are similar enough that I think I can accurately base my timeline off of his. At this rate, both of us are looking at 2 years min from CJO - FJO
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