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Anonymous33  
#1 Posted : Saturday, January 26, 2019 7:56:13 AM(UTC)
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I am a GS 11 but I have seen my position posted on USAJOBS more than once as a GS12. I am wondering if or how I can leverage this to re-grade my position. Would I use desk audit? My immediate supervisor in the past has been in support of trying to get me a 12 for retention purposes, but he has said the only way local leadership is likely to do it is for increasing supervisory responsibilities.

But the position is graded 12 elsewhere due to specialized knowledge and training requirements.

So how does this work in practice?

(I have no concerns about downgrading because the position is already minimally graded for essential functions of the role/discipline.)
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#2 Posted : Saturday, January 26, 2019 10:51:13 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Anonymous33 Go to Quoted Post
I am a GS 11 but I have seen my position posted on USAJOBS more than once as a GS12. I am wondering if or how I can leverage this to re-grade my position. Would I use desk audit? My immediate supervisor in the past has been in support of trying to get me a 12 for retention purposes, but he has said the only way local leadership is likely to do it is for increasing supervisory responsibilities.

But the position is graded 12 elsewhere due to specialized knowledge and training requirements.

So how does this work in practice?

(I have no concerns about downgrading because the position is already minimally graded for essential functions of the role/discipline.)


Unless you have compared the position descriptions side-by-side you can't say that the positions posted on USAJobs are the same as yours. Start applying for those GS-12s and let leadership know about it. If they really want to keep you, they'll figure it out.
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#3 Posted : Saturday, January 26, 2019 2:46:39 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: DaVinci95 Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Anonymous33 Go to Quoted Post
I am a GS 11 but I have seen my position posted on USAJOBS more than once as a GS12. I am wondering if or how I can leverage this to re-grade my position. Would I use desk audit? My immediate supervisor in the past has been in support of trying to get me a 12 for retention purposes, but he has said the only way local leadership is likely to do it is for increasing supervisory responsibilities.

But the position is graded 12 elsewhere due to specialized knowledge and training requirements.

So how does this work in practice?

(I have no concerns about downgrading because the position is already minimally graded for essential functions of the role/discipline.)


Unless you have compared the position descriptions side-by-side you can't say that the positions posted on USAJobs are the same as yours. Start applying for those GS-12s and let leadership know about it. If they really want to keep you, they'll figure it out.


Pretty much what this person said...

I was in the exact same boat... no to a 12 after speaking with my boss, his boss, and the director. Picked up a 12 and 1 week before my departure, my boss asked if I would stay for a 12. Unfortunately, I'd already signed a new lease and prepared to move. Plus, I was ready for a change.

Plus, you should apply for the other jobs and see if you can make the cert... I'd go on the interview... see if they offer... and then see what your boss will do.

Alternatively, maybe you should look for other positions in your department... tell management you WANT to stay and how much you love it there. See if you can get training to move up and onward!
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Hard to say without the full picture.

1 have you seen your pd and the point scoring associated to it?

If so look at it and compare it to the Pom position scoring guidelines for a desk audit.

Another big factor is say your position is doing x, y, and z fir region 1 offucr. Region 2-10 all have identical positions but say you and another region Are 12 while you are an 11.

2 apply elsewhere. You get an offer elsewhere for a 12 your place would then do a retention offer.

To be honest there isn’t much separating 11 and 12. Experience and independence seem to be the biggest.



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