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nylahj09  
#1 Posted : Saturday, February 09, 2019 5:50:09 PM(UTC)
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I finally received a verbal offer from HR on Friday and she stated my pay will be a GS-5. Will this be the same with my firm offer even after my background etc.??

I have a Bachelor's and Master's so I wasn't sure if they can give me credit for Masters since its a MSA position.

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#2 Posted : Sunday, February 10, 2019 1:04:19 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: nylahj09 Go to Quoted Post
I finally received a verbal offer from HR on Friday and she stated my pay will be a GS-5. Will this be the same with my firm offer even after my background etc.??

I have a Bachelor's and Master's so I wasn't sure if they can give me credit for Masters since its a MSA position.

Thanks


What was the level you applied to? Was the position a GS-5 or a ladder position? Did you state you would take GS-5 as the lowest?
That's all I got to say about that.
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#3 Posted : Sunday, February 10, 2019 1:12:44 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: nylahj09 Go to Quoted Post
I finally received a verbal offer from HR on Friday and she stated my pay will be a GS-5. Will this be the same with my firm offer even after my background etc.??

I have a Bachelor's and Master's so I wasn't sure if they can give me credit for Masters since its a MSA position.

Thanks
My God, those that work in the Government kitchens are GS 5's. You didn't go to school for a Bachelors & a Masters degree for this? I started (and ended) my Career as a GS 11 and had about a week of Junior College
nylahj09  
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I originally gave my resume to the Hr Specialist so I didn’t apply online...it’s my first time working for the government so could this be why?
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#5 Posted : Sunday, February 10, 2019 9:46:31 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: GSBS Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: nylahj09 Go to Quoted Post
I finally received a verbal offer from HR on Friday and she stated my pay will be a GS-5. Will this be the same with my firm offer even after my background etc.??

I have a Bachelor's and Master's so I wasn't sure if they can give me credit for Masters since its a MSA position.

Thanks
My God, those that work in the Government kitchens are GS 5's. You didn't go to school for a Bachelors & a Masters degree for this? I started (and ended) my Career as a GS 11 and had about a week of Junior College


Willing to bet you also got out the military and had specialized experience. You should remember not all are that lucky.
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#6 Posted : Monday, February 11, 2019 7:18:34 AM(UTC)
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Verbal offers are meaningless. Ask questions after the tentative offer and after the final offer. The offers are via HR in writing.
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Verbal offers are meaningless. Ask questions after the tentative offer and after the final offer. The offers are via HR in writing.


I wouldn't go so far as to say verbal offers are "meaningless." Tell that to someone who can't even score an interview, much less an offer (verbal or otherwise), after months or years of trying.

I agree they need to get a follow-up to the verbal offer in writing as that's more firm (which I'm sure is forthcoming anyway), followed by the even more solid final job offer, also in writing.
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#8 Posted : Monday, February 11, 2019 2:09:49 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: nylahj09 Go to Quoted Post
I finally received a verbal offer from HR on Friday and she stated my pay will be a GS-5. Will this be the same with my firm offer even after my background etc.??

I have a Bachelor's and Master's so I wasn't sure if they can give me credit for Masters since its a MSA position.

Thanks


yes, that's the job you applied for. jobs are graded, people are not. if you want more pay you'd have to apply for jobs that have a higher GS rating that make use of the education.

these quals are from 2012 but it seems your bachelor's is what qualified you for the job so you've gotten credit for it which i think you've alluded to. a master's is not listed in the quals and as such will not be considered in setting pay if i remember correctly.

http://www.afge477.org/msaqs.pdf
BrianDez  
#9 Posted : Thursday, February 14, 2019 4:44:45 AM(UTC)
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Yes, HR can/will/may call you to extend the TO over the phone. As long as you accept they WILL/MUST extend the TO as a written/emailed offer. Your firm offer with the EOD will be the final thing you have to review. Make sure you address any questions prior to receiving the EOD as well as after you receive the EOD.

My recent experience: Applied to a grade promotion position. I was selected, received the TO in email. The TO stated the position was at the lower grade and NO promotion potential. I went back to USAJOBS to review the posting, and I recalled the interviewer clearly stated it was a grade promotion position. I called the HR on the email to clarify the promotion potential statement. The HR reviewed their system and did need to correct the TO. I got the corrected TO and moved forward with the rest of the process.

As far as trying to use your education as a jumper for pay setting, it can be done but VERY difficult for some Management folks to get approved.

Your choice: 1) Take the position, cut your teeth, learn the system, go on to bigger things. 2) Go with the attitude "I'm better than that.." and find other positions. Either one isn't a bad choice....just a choice only you can make.
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