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Jake1000  
#1 Posted : Wednesday, March 06, 2019 6:12:52 AM(UTC)
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I am a current Fed, Grade 7 step 10
I applied for a position at grade 9 which I’m highly qualified for. However, with the two step rule, that brings me to grade 9 step 5. Which is only $4,000 more per year.
About $50 more per take take home pay. However, it will cost me about $30 MORE per week in gas to the new location.

Are steps negotiable (to step 7 or 8) so I can at least cover my gas and have MAYBE $40-$50 left in my pocket?
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#2 Posted : Wednesday, March 06, 2019 6:18:09 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Jake1000 Go to Quoted Post
I am a current Fed, Grade 7 step 10
I applied for a position at grade 9 which I’m highly qualified for. However, with the two step rule, that brings me to grade 9 step 5. Which is only $4,000 more per year.
About $50 more per take take home pay. However, it will cost me about $30 MORE per week in gas to the new location.

Are steps negotiable (to step 7 or 8) so I can at least cover my gas and have MAYBE $40-$50 left in my pocket?


No. But you will have potential for higher income due to steps, as well as eventually qualifying to apply for next grade.
The excuse of, "I read it on FederalSoup..." won't work. Please do your due diligence.
Jake1000  
#3 Posted : Wednesday, March 06, 2019 9:32:55 AM(UTC)
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Thanks for the information FS.
Reading the forum, looks like Non Feds (Newly hired) get to negotiate.
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#4 Posted : Wednesday, March 06, 2019 9:45:07 AM(UTC)
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Correct, non-feds and feds with a 90 day break in service (resigned), get to negotiate pay, feds can only take what is offered. You automatically get one step a year for the first 4 years, followed by one step every two years after the first 4 years
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Thanks for the information FS.
Reading the forum, looks like Non Feds (Newly hired) get to negotiate.


Correct - the promotion will ultimately lead to a significant increase over your current income, so not all bad.
The excuse of, "I read it on FederalSoup..." won't work. Please do your due diligence.
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#6 Posted : Wednesday, March 06, 2019 12:17:27 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Jake1000 Go to Quoted Post
I am a current Fed, Grade 7 step 10
I applied for a position at grade 9 which I’m highly qualified for. However, with the two step rule, that brings me to grade 9 step 5. Which is only $4,000 more per year.
About $50 more per take take home pay. However, it will cost me about $30 MORE per week in gas to the new location.

Are steps negotiable (to step 7 or 8) so I can at least cover my gas and have MAYBE $40-$50 left in my pocket?


Is public transit to and from where you live and the new position's location an option?

The federal mass transit benefit is up to $265 a month to cover actual commuting costs for fares on eligible transit systems. That's the 2019 benefit amount; it can change in every new budget.
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I am curious as to how you came up with $50 more per pay period. If its $4,000 more in salary... I would divide that by 26 pay periods and that would be $153 more per pay period. Maybe I am missing something!!!
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#8 Posted : Sunday, March 10, 2019 4:58:11 AM(UTC)
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I am curious as to how you came up with $50 more per pay period. If its $4,000 more in salary... I would divide that by 26 pay periods and that would be $153 more per pay period. Maybe I am missing something!!!


Divide $4,000 by 52 weeks = $76.92 pre-tax pay per week or you can divide $4,000 by 26 pay periods = $153.84 then divide by 2 to get the pay per week = $76.92 pre-tax so I’m assuming post-tax is around $50? Maybe. I could be wrong. I don’t know his tax percentage or other deductions.
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I believe that a Fed can negotiate only if the position is a different series. The 2-step rule can be found at https://www.opm.gov/poli.../fact-sheets/promotions/

I don't have a link for change of series. Good luck and God Bless.
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I am curious as to how you came up with $50 more per pay period. If its $4,000 more in salary... I would divide that by 26 pay periods and that would be $153 more per pay period. Maybe I am missing something!!!


Divide $4,000 by 52 weeks = $76.92 pre-tax pay per week or you can divide $4,000 by 26 pay periods = $153.84 then divide by 2 to get the pay per week = $76.92 pre-tax so I’m assuming post-tax is around $50? Maybe. I could be wrong. I don’t know his tax percentage or other deductions.


Hurryupandwait...you had me confused for a second there...you replied as if you were the original poster. I wanted to know the thinking of the original poster as I am always in the learning mode. As far as your comment...universally current (GS) and others use pay periods (26) since we get paid every 2-weeks. Thanks for your input.
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As the original poster:

$4,000 is $153 PP. MINUS 28% tax bracket = $110 PP = $60 per week take home pay. (Minus TSP contributions, which I really shouldn’t count) = $50+/- Per Week take home pay. So, most of that take home pay will go to gas.

No, I do not have transit access.
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Originally Posted by: Jake1000 Go to Quoted Post
As the original poster:

$4,000 is $153 PP. MINUS 28% tax bracket = $110 PP = $60 per week take home pay. (Minus TSP contributions, which I really shouldn’t count) = $50+/- Per Week take home pay. So, most of that take home pay will go to gas.

No, I do not have transit access.


I agree, there is no doubt from my point of view that you count the TSP contributions. Thanks for the clarification and your rationale on the matter.
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#13 Posted : Sunday, March 10, 2019 9:43:24 AM(UTC)
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I am curious as to how you came up with $50 more per pay period. If its $4,000 more in salary... I would divide that by 26 pay periods and that would be $153 more per pay period. Maybe I am missing something!!!


Divide $4,000 by 52 weeks = $76.92 pre-tax pay per week or you can divide $4,000 by 26 pay periods = $153.84 then divide by 2 to get the pay per week = $76.92 pre-tax so I’m assuming post-tax is around $50? Maybe. I could be wrong. I don’t know his tax percentage or other deductions.


Hurryupandwait...you had me confused for a second there...you replied as if you were the original poster. I wanted to know the thinking of the original poster as I am always in the learning mode. As far as your comment...universally current (GS) and others use pay periods (26) since we get paid every 2-weeks. Thanks for your input.


Yes, I’m aware that federal agencies have 26 pay periods (I’m a federal employee).

Just wanted to help with the calculations of take home pay per week even if we get paid bi-weekly.
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#14 Posted : Sunday, March 10, 2019 10:02:53 AM(UTC)
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I am curious as to how you came up with $50 more per pay period. If its $4,000 more in salary... I would divide that by 26 pay periods and that would be $153 more per pay period. Maybe I am missing something!!!


Divide $4,000 by 52 weeks = $76.92 pre-tax pay per week or you can divide $4,000 by 26 pay periods = $153.84 then divide by 2 to get the pay per week = $76.92 pre-tax so I’m assuming post-tax is around $50? Maybe. I could be wrong. I don’t know his tax percentage or other deductions.


Hurryupandwait...you had me confused for a second there...you replied as if you were the original poster. I wanted to know the thinking of the original poster as I am always in the learning mode. As far as your comment...universally current (GS) and others use pay periods (26) since we get paid every 2-weeks. Thanks for your input.


Yes, I’m aware that federal agencies have 26 pay periods (I’m a federal employee).

Just wanted to help with the calculations of take home pay per week even if we get paid bi-weekly.


Got it brother! Alles Klar...
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