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PMoore  
#1 Posted : Monday, April 15, 2019 6:22:21 AM(UTC)
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June of 2018 I was a DOD employee GS-0679-05 Step 6. I was selected for a new series and new agency (VA). I was promoted to a GS-0301-6 step 4. My question(s) are: Did I not fall under the 2 step rule? If so it appears that it was calculated incorrectly and that I should be a GS6-Step 5 instead of a GS6-Step 4. I am due to be promoted to a GS-7 in 2 months and this would make a difference in what I'd be promoted to as a GS-7. I've talked to the HR in-house person and she said it has something to do with a change in occupational series. I don't really understand how that would work considering I was not on any special pay tables. GS pay is the same for each grade that does not have special pay, or am I wrong? I'm just trying to understand how the 2 step rule works. Thank you in advance. If something needs fixing, I need to get it handled soon.
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#2 Posted : Monday, April 22, 2019 4:50:21 PM(UTC)
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June of 2018 I was a DOD employee GS-0679-05 Step 6. I was selected for a new series and new agency (VA). I was promoted to a GS-0301-6 step 4. My question(s) are: Did I not fall under the 2 step rule? If so it appears that it was calculated incorrectly and that I should be a GS6-Step 5 instead of a GS6-Step 4. I am due to be promoted to a GS-7 in 2 months and this would make a difference in what I'd be promoted to as a GS-7. I've talked to the HR in-house person and she said it has something to do with a change in occupational series. I don't really understand how that would work considering I was not on any special pay tables. GS pay is the same for each grade that does not have special pay, or am I wrong? I'm just trying to understand how the 2 step rule works. Thank you in advance. If something needs fixing, I need to get it handled soon.


I can't help you with any actual knowledge. I'm new to fed service and don't understand it well either. If you haven't seen the links that try to explain it, https://www.opm.gov/poli...fact-sheets/promotions/. Good luck.
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#3 Posted : Monday, April 22, 2019 5:34:29 PM(UTC)
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V.A. HR is notoriously inept. You should file a pay claim. There is no exception to the 2-Step Rule for a different Occupational Series. If you are in a Bargaining Unit, contact your Union Rep.
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#4 Posted : Monday, April 22, 2019 5:48:36 PM(UTC)
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V.A. HR is notoriously inept. You should file a pay claim. There is no exception to the 2-Step Rule for a different Occupational Series. If you are in a Bargaining Unit, contact your Union Rep.


SD quick followup. If one were being rehired to a higher grade/dif agency, this wouldn't apply right? At least it would be moot if say the higher grade step 1 is higher than current whatever grade/step+2. If a person was jumped like that say 5/2 to 10 or whatever it would just be a 10/1 when hired. Second followup. would it be 10/2 at the original anniversary date or only at the new hire anniversary date.
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#5 Posted : Friday, April 26, 2019 2:38:49 PM(UTC)
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V.A. HR is notoriously inept. You should file a pay claim. There is no exception to the 2-Step Rule for a different Occupational Series. If you are in a Bargaining Unit, contact your Union Rep.


SD quick followup. If one were being rehired to a higher grade/dif agency, this wouldn't apply right? At least it would be moot if say the higher grade step 1 is higher than current whatever grade/step+2. If a person was jumped like that say 5/2 to 10 or whatever it would just be a 10/1 when hired. Second followup. would it be 10/2 at the original anniversary date or only at the new hire anniversary date.


When you say "rehired," do you mean Reinstated after a break in service (quit Fed job then get rehired as a Fed)?? That is a different situation. They can set your starting pay to whatever they want, the 2 Step Rule does not apply. Negotiate for higher, if you can. All they can do is say no.

The 2 Step Rule doesn't mean if you go from a 5/2 to a 10 that you are supposed to go to a 10/4. It means that the salary in the promotion has to be at least as much as 2 steps higher than your previous pay, in the example, a 5/4. A 10 Step 1 is obviously higher than that, so you would be slotted in as a 10 Step 1. If you were being Reinstated after a break in service, you can negotiate for a higher salary than the Step 1.

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#6 Posted : Friday, May 3, 2019 5:10:56 AM(UTC)

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The only thing I can think of is maybe you were treated as having a break in service. Then the two-step rule wouldn't apply.

But yeah, based on your info and the GS table, I agree with your calculation, the two-step rule should have taken you to a GS-6 step 5 from GS-5 step 6 if you were being promoted from GS-5 to GS-6.

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