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Libbo  
#1 Posted : Wednesday, May 22, 2019 10:45:57 AM(UTC)
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Why is there a grading bias that doctors Nurses over HCA in compatible roles? For example a SPSS chief is a RN they are a grade 3 (compatible to a GS-12) and the HSS is a GS 8-9. It seems like RN’s qualify roles specifically to RN’s because they have such difficulty getting similar grading for HSS. This seems inherently inappropriate, is there a legitimate reason why?
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#2 Posted : Thursday, May 23, 2019 2:46:14 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Libbo Go to Quoted Post
Why is there a grading bias that doctors Nurses over HCA in compatible roles? For example a SPSS chief is a RN they are a grade 3 (compatible to a GS-12) and the HSS is a GS 8-9. It seems like RN’s qualify roles specifically to RN’s because they have such difficulty getting similar grading for HSS. This seems inherently inappropriate, is there a legitimate reason why?
Are HCAs required to be board certified? RNs and Doctors do...and therefor can command higher salaries. And so a supervisor RN is would need to be equal or above to be above in grade than their subordinates, hence the higher grade. Administrative positions start at lower grades, and therefore the pay in general is lower.

And while an RN or a Dr can move over to administration (many hospital top administrators are medical professionals), a person with a degree and background in healthcare administration cannot just move over to being a doctor or nurse without going back to school and getting the medical qualifications needed (degree, board verification, etc).
You should have voted Cthulu...the greatest of all Evils
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#3 Posted : Thursday, May 23, 2019 5:39:04 AM(UTC)
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Interesting, board certified is the only difference? I think that when you progress into the realms of graduate educated admin positions the undergrad board very is largely irrelevant in non-clinical roles. It feels like the VA CCU and HR folks have separate processes that are biased to higher grades for Nurses in exactly similar roles. I thought there might be a legitimate reason.
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#4 Posted : Thursday, May 23, 2019 8:05:47 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Libbo Go to Quoted Post
Interesting, board certified is the only difference? I think that when you progress into the realms of graduate educated admin positions the undergrad board very is largely irrelevant in non-clinical roles. It feels like the VA CCU and HR folks have separate processes that are biased to higher grades for Nurses in exactly similar roles. I thought there might be a legitimate reason.


no, that is not the only difference. the clinical knowledge forms a basis from which to implement rational policy and administer it. general policy not involving clinical judgement can probably be achieved for non-clinical applications. to assume that other admin positions such as nursing execs., etc. have no clinical component is incorrect.

Edited by user Thursday, May 23, 2019 10:50:55 AM(UTC)  | Reason: typos

thanks 2 users thanked old fed for this useful post.
frankgonzalez on 5/23/2019(UTC), SD Analyst on 5/30/2019(UTC)
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