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#1 Posted : Monday, June 03, 2019 11:10:54 AM(UTC)
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Due to being a job applicant, I was denied ADR and only provided with Traditional Counseling. Why is this?
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Due to being a job applicant, I was denied ADR and only provided with Traditional Counseling. Why is this?


Best guess, you are not an employee. Best guess, EEO complaint...
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#3 Posted : Tuesday, June 04, 2019 2:39:25 AM(UTC)
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Due to being a job applicant, I was denied ADR and only provided with Traditional Counseling. Why is this?
ADR requires both sides to be willing to try it. It appears the agency feels there is no need to try ADR as they feel they did nothing wrong/nothing that can be done to resolve your complaint and so they will let the process continue as is.

Without more details on the claim, it is hard to provide any more reasoning than the above.

You should have voted Cthulu...the greatest of all Evils
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Due to being a job applicant, I was denied ADR and only provided with Traditional Counseling. Why is this?
ADR requires both sides to be willing to try it. It appears the agency feels there is no need to try ADR as they feel they did nothing wrong/nothing that can be done to resolve your complaint and so they will let the process continue as is.

Without more details on the claim, it is hard to provide any more reasoning than the above.



I just started the complaint and signed documents. The eeo specialist said since I am a job applicant, ADR is not allowed. I find Traditional Counseling useful anyways. I don't think anything will get resolved at the informal stage.

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#5 Posted : Wednesday, June 05, 2019 3:58:36 AM(UTC)
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Due to being a job applicant, I was denied ADR and only provided with Traditional Counseling. Why is this?
ADR requires both sides to be willing to try it. It appears the agency feels there is no need to try ADR as they feel they did nothing wrong/nothing that can be done to resolve your complaint and so they will let the process continue as is.

Without more details on the claim, it is hard to provide any more reasoning than the above.



I just started the complaint and signed documents. The eeo specialist said since I am a job applicant, ADR is not allowed. I find Traditional Counseling useful anyways. I don't think anything will get resolved at the informal stage.
Unless it is the agency's policy, ADR can be done in all stages. I have done mediation for complainants who were applicants and did not work for Uncle Sam yet. I recall one where the selecting official showed them the (redacted) resume of the selectee (which the complainant would get in the EEO process any way) and explained why the selectee was the person picked. The Complainant saw the selectee's experience and qualification (matched and exceeded his by far) and he stated he would have picked them over himself. And the selecting official then gave the complainant feedback on what they would need to be a better candidate in the future (tweaks to the resume, courses and things to try and do to broaden their experience, etc).

The complainant withdrew his complaint as a result...even though no settlement agreement.

In other cases, the agency offered a settlement as there was some irregularities in the process.

You should have voted Cthulu...the greatest of all Evils
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