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Jakeabambo  
#1 Posted : Tuesday, July 9, 2019 3:44:04 PM(UTC)
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I tried exhausting all the pervious conversations on here before I posted my own question/thread, but I have only found specific scenarios that do not answer what I need.

I am curious if anyone has got their PhD while working federally and did it benefit their current position or open doors to higher positions?

Also, I work under the Department of the Navy and seen they have the AWTAP program. The thing is though, they will only pay up to your masters degree. Does anyone know if there is a way to get some of your PhD studies paid for through another program?

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A doctorate in what field?
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A doctorate in what field?


My apologies: Computer Science.
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#4 Posted : Tuesday, July 9, 2019 8:23:34 PM(UTC)
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Check out ORISE and see if they have any accomodations. https://orise.orau.gov/

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#5 Posted : Tuesday, July 9, 2019 9:45:50 PM(UTC)
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I'm still considering a doctorate myself, while it would help my job opportunities, it wouldn't necessarily mean a promotion--at least for me....

ORISE may be your best bet. There are ORISE opportunities overseas periodically! But I don't think you'd be able to stay federal employee during your education.

You can also check out the S.M.A.R.T. program for retention employees; must have a sponsor.

Also, while I'm sure of it for the Air Force, I believe it was a DoD wide policy change about 2-3 years ago that tuition assistance will help with doctorate level courses--but the annual cap is the same and I don't believe dissertation / thesis credits were eligible for TA. But every little bit helps.

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Thank you both! Those websites are a wealth of knowledge.
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PhDs are not an advantage in the fed govt. except for a few areas...

1 subject matter experts. Some agencies have a fee of these in specialized field like the army corps will have some PhD engineer folks. Cronus survey design experts have phD. Research scientists and data analysts like in forest service and agriculture and VHA research groups have phDs.


Also..some of these jobs can be done as contractors or in VA there are dual university faculty and research positions in the VA. HSRD snd QUERI are phD heavy snd university affiliated in VHA.

Agencies who have PhD level positions likrly cover some sort of education costs or detail assignments to getphDs. Like in DOD for active duty they have masters and PhD schooling programs where they go full time and thetraded of isextrnding service time.



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I can see no legitimate reason for obtaining a Ph.D in Computer Science. I have a Masters in Computer Science, and besides teaching opportunities afterwards (such as Naval Postgraduate School), or the perceived prestige, can see no benefit for the effort. Emphasize on the perceived aspect, because it's not an academic institution. You won't ever be referred to as Dr. X, you'll get no extra promotional points, and in general, nobody even knows your educational background.

You'd probably be best to invest all that energy into Certifications such as CISSP, Security+, CEH, PMP, etc.

Personally I think it's very prestigious and honorable, but is that worth the cost and effort? At most you'll be updating your e-mail signature.

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