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SpeedyCCA  
#1 Posted : Sunday, July 14, 2019 12:08:00 PM(UTC)
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I was wondering if there are any protections stated in our contract which protect a regular carrier from being laid off (NOT fired) from the post office if for some reason his job becomes phased out or the current station decides to downsize?

I have heard from an older carrier before that you need to have at least 7 years of being employed to get such protection. I got hired as a CCA 2014 and became regular 2 1/2 years after that up to now so I am around 5 years +.
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#2 Posted : Sunday, July 14, 2019 12:26:18 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: SpeedyCCA Go to Quoted Post
I was wondering if there are any protections stated in our contract which protect a regular carrier from being laid off (NOT fired) from the post office if for some reason his job becomes phased out or the current station decides to downsize?

I have heard from an older carrier before that you need to have at least 7 years of being employed to get such protection. I got hired as a CCA 2014 and became regular 2 1/2 years after that up to now so I am around 5 years +.


Everyone below you in senority need to go before you.

Beyond that, a Google search will tell you the number of years for layoff protection
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postalvet  
#3 Posted : Sunday, July 14, 2019 12:30:47 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: SpeedyCCA Go to Quoted Post
I was wondering if there are any protections stated in our contract which protect a regular carrier from being laid off (NOT fired) from the post office if for some reason his job becomes phased out or the current station decides to downsize?

I have heard from an older carrier before that you need to have at least 7 years of being employed to get such protection. I got hired as a CCA 2014 and became regular 2 1/2 years after that up to now so I am around 5 years +.


read article 6.


no you are not 5 years, time only counts as career.
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#4 Posted : Sunday, July 14, 2019 1:50:50 PM(UTC)
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You can go to you eOPF, and among the calculations there, will be one for "RIF", which will show you how many days, months, years of seniority you have.
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gammatron  
#5 Posted : Sunday, July 14, 2019 2:08:23 PM(UTC)
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....time only counts as career.

Qualifying military service counts as well for computing your RIF date.

Edited by user Sunday, July 14, 2019 2:09:13 PM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

all these mailmen do is drop in their letters and get laid, this is the job for me, oh yes yes yes
colty31  
#6 Posted : Sunday, July 14, 2019 4:37:47 PM(UTC)
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I was wondering if there are any protections stated in our contract which protect a regular carrier from being laid off (NOT fired) from the post office if for some reason his job becomes phased out or the current station decides to downsize?

I have heard from an older carrier before that you need to have at least 7 years of being employed to get such protection. I got hired as a CCA 2014 and became regular 2 1/2 years after that up to now so I am around 5 years +.


read article 6.


no you are not 5 years, time only counts as career.


if in the future they decide to count CCA years towards our retirement eligibility/allow us to buyback the years, would that then make the CCA years count towards the layoff clause?
roger.d  
#7 Posted : Sunday, July 14, 2019 4:49:05 PM(UTC)
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I was wondering if there are any protections stated in our contract which protect a regular carrier from being laid off (NOT fired) from the post office if for some reason his job becomes phased out or the current station decides to downsize?

I have heard from an older carrier before that you need to have at least 7 years of being employed to get such protection. I got hired as a CCA 2014 and became regular 2 1/2 years after that up to now so I am around 5 years +.


read article 6.


no you are not 5 years, time only counts as career.


if in the future they decide to count CCA years towards our retirement eligibility/allow us to buyback the years, would that then make the CCA years count towards the layoff clause?


That will be in the details of the bill.


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postalvet  
#8 Posted : Sunday, July 14, 2019 4:55:49 PM(UTC)
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I was wondering if there are any protections stated in our contract which protect a regular carrier from being laid off (NOT fired) from the post office if for some reason his job becomes phased out or the current station decides to downsize?

I have heard from an older carrier before that you need to have at least 7 years of being employed to get such protection. I got hired as a CCA 2014 and became regular 2 1/2 years after that up to now so I am around 5 years +.


read article 6.


no you are not 5 years, time only counts as career.


if in the future they decide to count CCA years towards our retirement eligibility/allow us to buyback the years, would that then make the CCA years count towards the layoff clause?


probably not as that would cause a change to article 6 and the unions are not willing to open article 6.
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Seadogg  
#9 Posted : Sunday, July 14, 2019 6:02:39 PM(UTC)
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Article 6 protections are nice but will likely never come into play for carriers. Only a major rehaul of delivery operations would result in more than token FTR layoffs. Even if they did 5-day delivery, laying off the CCAs would probably be enough, or nearly so. They'd have to do 3-day, or wholesale conversion to CBUs to cut many FTRs. Even then, they would mostly be getting rid of the people with less than 6 years.
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#10 Posted : Sunday, July 14, 2019 6:07:51 PM(UTC)
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Layoffs would likely be after an early out to get rid of the more expensive employee. Wages and FERS contribution.
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MPE2009  
#11 Posted : Monday, July 15, 2019 7:30:47 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Seadogg Go to Quoted Post
Article 6 protections are nice but will likely never come into play for carriers. Only a major rehaul of delivery operations would result in more than token FTR layoffs. Even if they did 5-day delivery, laying off the CCAs would probably be enough, or nearly so. They'd have to do 3-day, or wholesale conversion to CBUs to cut many FTRs. Even then, they would mostly be getting rid of the people with less than 6 years.


There aren't enough carriers now. Even if we go to five day, we'd still be understaffed in the majority of post offices across the country.
Smearski  
#12 Posted : Wednesday, July 17, 2019 10:23:38 PM(UTC)
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Can a regular be cornholed?
oldboy  
#13 Posted : Sunday, July 21, 2019 12:22:02 AM(UTC)
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....time only counts as career.

Qualifying military service counts as well for computing your RIF date.



Only after five years of Postal service has been attained.
The military time must be paid in full as well.
Hannah Blecter  
#14 Posted : Sunday, July 21, 2019 7:35:40 AM(UTC)
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Can a regular be cornholed?


Yes.

Regularly.
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