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#1 Posted : Wednesday, December 4, 2019 4:03:03 PM(UTC)
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Hey guys,

Do any of you know when a route is supposed to be up for bid within the office once a City Carrier retires? We had one retire on October 31st and the route still has not been put up for bid within the office. The office only has 5 city routes. Is there a time frame that they have to post it in?


Thanks!
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#2 Posted : Wednesday, December 4, 2019 4:30:10 PM(UTC)
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Hey guys,

Do any of you know when a route is supposed to be up for bid within the office once a City Carrier retires? We had one retire on October 31st and the route still has not been put up for bid within the office. The office only has 5 city routes. Is there a time frame that they have to post it in?


Thanks!


did you read article 41?

it is pretty clear.
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#3 Posted : Wednesday, December 4, 2019 5:11:36 PM(UTC)
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When you file the grievance, ask for $50/week, from the time it should have been awarded, to the successful bidder. Settle for $25/week.
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#4 Posted : Wednesday, December 4, 2019 5:23:42 PM(UTC)
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For comparison, we had a carrier retire mid-October and his route has already been filled with the successful bidder for over a week.

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#5 Posted : Wednesday, December 4, 2019 6:03:09 PM(UTC)
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Hey guys,

Do any of you know when a route is supposed to be up for bid within the office once a City Carrier retires? We had one retire on October 31st and the route still has not been put up for bid within the office. The office only has 5 city routes. Is there a time frame that they have to post it in?


Thanks!


did you read article 41?

it is pretty clear.


Is this what I am looking at? 14 days?


Article 41

Section 1. Posting A. In the Letter Carrier Craft, vacant craft duty assignments shall be posted as follows: 1. A vacant or newly established duty assignment not under consideration for reversion shall be post-ed within fourteen calendar days from the day it becomes vacant or is established, unless a longer period of time is negotiated locally
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#6 Posted : Wednesday, December 4, 2019 7:02:08 PM(UTC)
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are you sure he's gone? might still be on the rolls, using up sick leave?
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#7 Posted : Wednesday, December 4, 2019 7:12:04 PM(UTC)
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Hey guys,

Do any of you know when a route is supposed to be up for bid within the office once a City Carrier retires? We had one retire on October 31st and the route still has not been put up for bid within the office. The office only has 5 city routes. Is there a time frame that they have to post it in?


Thanks!


did you read article 41?

it is pretty clear.


Is this what I am looking at? 14 days?


Article 41

Section 1. Posting A. In the Letter Carrier Craft, vacant craft duty assignments shall be posted as follows: 1. A vacant or newly established duty assignment not under consideration for reversion shall be post-ed within fourteen calendar days from the day it becomes vacant or is established, unless a longer period of time is negotiated locally


now what does you local memo state?

and read post above.

make sure they are really gone, before making a big deal about this.


an info request will get you the results you need, if you are the steward.
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#8 Posted : Wednesday, December 4, 2019 8:06:13 PM(UTC)
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Hey guys,

Do any of you know when a route is supposed to be up for bid within the office once a City Carrier retires? We had one retire on October 31st and the route still has not been put up for bid within the office. The office only has 5 city routes. Is there a time frame that they have to post it in?


Thanks!


did you read article 41?

it is pretty clear.


Is this what I am looking at? 14 days?


Article 41

Section 1. Posting A. In the Letter Carrier Craft, vacant craft duty assignments shall be posted as follows: 1. A vacant or newly established duty assignment not under consideration for reversion shall be post-ed within fourteen calendar days from the day it becomes vacant or is established, unless a longer period of time is negotiated locally


now what does you local memo state?

and read post above.

make sure they are really gone, before making a big deal about this.


an info request will get you the results you need, if you are the steward.

Aww thanks for the reminder of the above.

I will check these things tomorrow and report back.

1. Get a copy of the newest LMOU (talked to the author of it and he said the route should have been posted but for me to check the LMOU just to be certain)

2. Make sure the Carrier is off the rolls. (may take an RFI)




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#9 Posted : Wednesday, December 4, 2019 8:14:11 PM(UTC)
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Aww thanks for the reminder of the above.

I will check these things tomorrow and report back.

1. Get a copy of the newest LMOU (talked to the author of it and he said the route should have been posted but for me to check the LMOU just to be certain)

2. Make sure the Carrier is off the rolls. (may take an RFI)


Is anyone "friends" with the carrier? A simple phone call could answer if they are on AL before retirement.






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#10 Posted : Thursday, December 5, 2019 4:38:18 AM(UTC)
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Hey guys,

Do any of you know when a route is supposed to be up for bid within the office once a City Carrier retires? We had one retire on October 31st and the route still has not been put up for bid within the office. The office only has 5 city routes. Is there a time frame that they have to post it in?


Thanks!


did you read article 41?

it is pretty clear.


Is this what I am looking at? 14 days?


Article 41

Section 1. Posting A. In the Letter Carrier Craft, vacant craft duty assignments shall be posted as follows: 1. A vacant or newly established duty assignment not under consideration for reversion shall be post-ed within fourteen calendar days from the day it becomes vacant or is established, unless a longer period of time is negotiated locally


now what does you local memo state?

and read post above.

make sure they are really gone, before making a big deal about this.


an info request will get you the results you need, if you are the steward.


Is that article correct? I remember something about bids going to 30 day cycles. I'm just unclear which union(s) and craft(s) were involved.
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#11 Posted : Thursday, December 5, 2019 11:47:32 AM(UTC)
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Hey guys,

Do any of you know when a route is supposed to be up for bid within the office once a City Carrier retires? We had one retire on October 31st and the route still has not been put up for bid within the office. The office only has 5 city routes. Is there a time frame that they have to post it in?


Thanks!


did you read article 41?

it is pretty clear.


Is this what I am looking at? 14 days?


Article 41

Section 1. Posting A. In the Letter Carrier Craft, vacant craft duty assignments shall be posted as follows: 1. A vacant or newly established duty assignment not under consideration for reversion shall be post-ed within fourteen calendar days from the day it becomes vacant or is established, unless a longer period of time is negotiated locally


now what does you local memo state?

and read post above.

make sure they are really gone, before making a big deal about this.


an info request will get you the results you need, if you are the steward.


Is that article correct? I remember something about bids going to 30 day cycles. I'm just unclear which union(s) and craft(s) were involved.


still the current letter carriers contract here;
https://www.nalc.org/wor...-Agreement-2016-2019.pdf
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#12 Posted : Thursday, December 5, 2019 12:41:03 PM(UTC)
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Update:

1. The LMOU states that postings are to be within 5 days of vacancy.

2. Asked the Postmaster if the carrier was off the rolls and she said that the paperwork has been completed and turned in a while ago and that its probably going to take until next year before anything gets done with it.
roger.d  
#13 Posted : Thursday, December 5, 2019 12:59:54 PM(UTC)
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Update:

1. The LMOU states that postings are to be within 5 days of vacancy.

2. Asked the Postmaster if the carrier was off the rolls and she said that the paperwork has been completed and turned in a while ago and that its probably going to take until next year before anything gets done with it.


What paperwork? The carriers retirement package.

File the grievance for violating Article 41 and the LMOU.

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