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oujosh29  
#541 Posted : Tuesday, July 20, 2021 6:18:24 AM(UTC)
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I checked and received a referral notice for ISO 2 today.


Congratulations!

Did you receive your referral notice through an email, or did you check through their monster dashboard?


Thanks, I checked my application status through the monster dashboard. I guess they do not send emails anymore? I haven’t been getting them through email at least.


Thank you! I did not realize that they no longer send out emails.
Do you have any idea when they will start sending out emails for essays or interviews for the ISO 1 position that opened up in early June?


Wish I knew, but I really have no idea. Federal hiring is slow, so once you hit a step in the process, it’s best to just forget about it and think about it again once you get to the next step. Easier said than done, I know!

HOWEVER, the posting did say offers would be made within 90 days of the closing date, so you at least have that to gauge remaining time.


That "within 90 days" is standard language that means nothing. A "quick" hire would be within 6 months.
Mike in VT  
#542 Posted : Tuesday, July 20, 2021 11:05:21 AM(UTC)

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I checked and received a referral notice for ISO 2 today.


Glad you received a referral.


All I got was:

"You were not among the most highly qualified candidates based on your self-rating of your qualifications."

Even though they have my SF-50 attached, that says ISA, ISO1 and ISO2...

Kind of glad I left the agency. Now, I don't think that I want to come back.



How goes it? Regarding the self-rating...the SF50 will not have an effect on that. The SF50 is only there to prove you qualify to apply for a particular posting that is for merit promotions or for a particular grade level.

Mike in VT  
#543 Posted : Tuesday, July 20, 2021 11:07:31 AM(UTC)

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I checked and received a referral notice for ISO 2 today.


Glad you received a referral.


All I got was:

"You were not among the most highly qualified candidates based on your self-rating of your qualifications."

Even though they have my SF-50 attached, that says ISA, ISO1 and ISO2...

Kind of glad I left the agency. Now, I don't think that I want to come back.




It's just crazy competitive right now since so many are wanting to get in on the remote working coming up. I know a bunch of people at USCIS who applied for ISO 1, 2 & 3 positions for jobs they are already doing. Not a single one was referred. I got achieved excellence and a bunch of stuff for 2020, but I didn't get referred to anything I applied for.

USCIS will probably be a real pain to get into/get promoted for a while. Feds from all over are taking pay cuts to get in.


Hello there. Can you explain what you mean by, "a bunch of people at USCIS ...applied for ISO 1/2/3 positions for jobs they already have"? Why are they applying for jobs they already have? Do you mean jobs at other centers/field offices?


Mike in VT  
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I checked and received a referral notice for ISO 2 today.


Congratulations!

Did you receive your referral notice through an email, or did you check through their monster dashboard?


Thanks, I checked my application status through the monster dashboard. I guess they do not send emails anymore? I haven’t been getting them through email at least.


Thank you! I did not realize that they no longer send out emails.
Do you have any idea when they will start sending out emails for essays or interviews for the ISO 1 position that opened up in early June?


I do know that on the public ISO1 announcement from June, they've already had essay and interviews. Not sure if it's the same one you're referring to. Was it the one that had an application cap (aka limit)
specializedRB  
#545 Posted : Tuesday, July 20, 2021 11:17:02 AM(UTC)
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I checked and received a referral notice for ISO 2 today.


Congratulations!

Did you receive your referral notice through an email, or did you check through their monster dashboard?


Thanks, I checked my application status through the monster dashboard. I guess they do not send emails anymore? I haven’t been getting them through email at least.


Thank you! I did not realize that they no longer send out emails.
Do you have any idea when they will start sending out emails for essays or interviews for the ISO 1 position that opened up in early June?


I do know that on the public ISO1 announcement from June, they've already had essay and interviews. Not sure if it's the same one you're referring to. Was it the one that had an application cap (aka limit)


Do you know how soon essay and interview emails went out after the referral notices? Assuming it’ll be the same for the ISO 2. Thanks.
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#546 Posted : Tuesday, July 20, 2021 11:31:29 AM(UTC)
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I checked and received a referral notice for ISO 2 today.


Congratulations!

Did you receive your referral notice through an email, or did you check through their monster dashboard?


Thanks, I checked my application status through the monster dashboard. I guess they do not send emails anymore? I haven’t been getting them through email at least.


Thank you! I did not realize that they no longer send out emails.
Do you have any idea when they will start sending out emails for essays or interviews for the ISO 1 position that opened up in early June?


I do know that on the public ISO1 announcement from June, they've already had essay and interviews. Not sure if it's the same one you're referring to. Was it the one that had an application cap (aka limit)


Aw darn, that was the posting that I was referring to. They already sent out all the emails for all the service centers?
JDSIII  
#547 Posted : Tuesday, July 20, 2021 12:06:03 PM(UTC)
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I don't feel so bad about not getting referred now. I received an "out of the zone of consideration" message.
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#548 Posted : Tuesday, July 20, 2021 6:13:25 PM(UTC)
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I checked and received a referral notice for ISO 2 today.


Glad you received a referral.


All I got was:

"You were not among the most highly qualified candidates based on your self-rating of your qualifications."

Even though they have my SF-50 attached, that says ISA, ISO1 and ISO2...

Kind of glad I left the agency. Now, I don't think that I want to come back.




It's just crazy competitive right now since so many are wanting to get in on the remote working coming up. I know a bunch of people at USCIS who applied for ISO 1, 2 & 3 positions for jobs they are already doing. Not a single one was referred. I got achieved excellence and a bunch of stuff for 2020, but I didn't get referred to anything I applied for.

USCIS will probably be a real pain to get into/get promoted for a while. Feds from all over are taking pay cuts to get in.


Hello there. Can you explain what you mean by, "a bunch of people at USCIS ...applied for ISO 1/2/3 positions for jobs they already have"? Why are they applying for jobs they already have? Do you mean jobs at other centers/field offices?




Jobs they are already doing. ISO 1s applied for ISO 2 jobs on the same team who would work the same form they've been working. Same for ISO 2s for the ISO 3 jobs.
Bros1980  
#549 Posted : Wednesday, July 21, 2021 5:20:38 AM(UTC)
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If current ISO's are not being referred or selected, than who is?

What type of applicants are moving forward in the process?
Mike in VT  
#550 Posted : Wednesday, July 21, 2021 5:38:35 AM(UTC)

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I checked and received a referral notice for ISO 2 today.


Congratulations!

Did you receive your referral notice through an email, or did you check through their monster dashboard?


Thanks, I checked my application status through the monster dashboard. I guess they do not send emails anymore? I haven’t been getting them through email at least.


Thank you! I did not realize that they no longer send out emails.
Do you have any idea when they will start sending out emails for essays or interviews for the ISO 1 position that opened up in early June?


I do know that on the public ISO1 announcement from June, they've already had essay and interviews. Not sure if it's the same one you're referring to. Was it the one that had an application cap (aka limit)


Do you know how soon essay and interview emails went out after the referral notices? Assuming it’ll be the same for the ISO 2. Thanks.


I believe the interviews were held last week for that announcement.

Mike in VT  
#551 Posted : Wednesday, July 21, 2021 5:40:49 AM(UTC)

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I checked and received a referral notice for ISO 2 today.


Congratulations!

Did you receive your referral notice through an email, or did you check through their monster dashboard?


Thanks, I checked my application status through the monster dashboard. I guess they do not send emails anymore? I haven’t been getting them through email at least.


Thank you! I did not realize that they no longer send out emails.
Do you have any idea when they will start sending out emails for essays or interviews for the ISO 1 position that opened up in early June?


I do know that on the public ISO1 announcement from June, they've already had essay and interviews. Not sure if it's the same one you're referring to. Was it the one that had an application cap (aka limit)


Aw darn, that was the posting that I was referring to. They already sent out all the emails for all the service centers?


can't speak for all the centers. but they would be under the same time constraints.

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Mike in VT  
#552 Posted : Wednesday, July 21, 2021 5:44:17 AM(UTC)

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I checked and received a referral notice for ISO 2 today.


Glad you received a referral.


All I got was:

"You were not among the most highly qualified candidates based on your self-rating of your qualifications."

Even though they have my SF-50 attached, that says ISA, ISO1 and ISO2...

Kind of glad I left the agency. Now, I don't think that I want to come back.




It's just crazy competitive right now since so many are wanting to get in on the remote working coming up. I know a bunch of people at USCIS who applied for ISO 1, 2 & 3 positions for jobs they are already doing. Not a single one was referred. I got achieved excellence and a bunch of stuff for 2020, but I didn't get referred to anything I applied for.

USCIS will probably be a real pain to get into/get promoted for a while. Feds from all over are taking pay cuts to get in.


Hello there. Can you explain what you mean by, "a bunch of people at USCIS ...applied for ISO 1/2/3 positions for jobs they already have"? Why are they applying for jobs they already have? Do you mean jobs at other centers/field offices?




Jobs they are already doing. ISO 1s applied for ISO 2 jobs on the same team who would work the same form they've been working. Same for ISO 2s for the ISO 3 jobs.



Oh i see. I get how someone would say ISO1s should be shoe-ins for the ISO2, but the jump from ISO2 to ISO3 is very different. Hard to get the ISO3 position. It comes down to how well someone answers the self-assessment questions and how well they perform on the subsequent process (i.e. essays, interview, etc.)

Mike in VT  
#553 Posted : Wednesday, July 21, 2021 5:49:18 AM(UTC)

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If current ISO's are not being referred or selected, than who is?

What type of applicants are moving forward in the process?


It's most often ISO1s are selected for ISO2s, but like I said in a previous post, it comes down to how well you do with the application process. You will be compared to other applicants with your self-assessment questions, essays and interview. All have scoring methodology.
specializedRB  
#554 Posted : Friday, July 23, 2021 7:43:47 AM(UTC)
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For current or prior ISO 2’s, when SCOPS did many vacancy ISO 2 posting, any clue on how many were selected/promoted? Is the essay for ISO 1 & 2 similar?
Mike in VT  
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For current or prior ISO 2’s, when SCOPS did many vacancy ISO 2 posting, any clue on how many were selected/promoted? Is the essay for ISO 1 & 2 similar?


"Many vacanies" can mean many things. It depends on the current staffing levels at a particular agency. VSC could have 20 openings, while Texas could have 8, etc.

Essays always seemed similar to me. Maybe a different topic, but required structure was always the same.
specializedRB  
#556 Posted : Monday, July 26, 2021 6:13:04 AM(UTC)
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For current or prior ISO 2’s, when SCOPS did many vacancy ISO 2 posting, any clue on how many were selected/promoted? Is the essay for ISO 1 & 2 similar?


"Many vacanies" can mean many things. It depends on the current staffing levels at a particular agency. VSC could have 20 openings, while Texas could have 8, etc.

Essays always seemed similar to me. Maybe a different topic, but required structure was always the same.


Thanks, Mike! You’re very helpful within this forum.
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Anyone know when the TSC will start conducting interviews for ISO 2 internal announcement that closed early this month?
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Anyone know when the TSC will start conducting interviews for ISO 2 internal announcement that closed early this month?


I am also wondering the same thing. I got referred a few weeks ago and haven’t received any emails regarding an interview yet.
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It kind of sucks that people who got offers rescinded wouldnt be able to get back in. I had gone through the whole process and was a class start date away before Covid and now when i reapplied, i didnt get referred. Did the same place as well, Vermont. Oh well, God has his ways. Best of luck to the new ISO's🙏
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#560 Posted : Sunday, August 8, 2021 8:04:24 AM(UTC)
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Anyone know when the TSC will start conducting interviews for ISO 2 internal announcement that closed early this month?


I am also wondering the same thing. I got referred a few weeks ago and haven’t received any emails regarding an interview yet.



I also applied for the ISO 2 internal announcement for the TSC and got best qualified/referred. Someone told me that TSC started sending out interview emails on Thursday, August 5th. My heart sank a little when I heard that and didn't receive an email...I'm hoping they are sending them out in waves, and maybe me and many others still have a shot with getting an email next week.

Best of luck!

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