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EagleDog  
#1 Posted : Sunday, January 12, 2020 11:54:18 PM(UTC)

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$223K for a USPS mail handler. In one year.
Pretty amazing. Almost unbelievable.
A regular joe making almost as much as the PMG/CEO of the company.

Meh...at least he didn't run the organization into the ground.

p.s. I bet there isn't an Amazon warehouse worker out there who made anywhere near what CEO Jeff Bezos made in 2018 :)
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#2 Posted : Monday, January 13, 2020 5:02:28 AM(UTC)
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Source of your info please...:)
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#3 Posted : Monday, January 13, 2020 6:29:07 AM(UTC)
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I too would like to see the source for that.

If a mail handlers annual is $60,000 that equals about $28.84 per hour. (which I believe may be a little high)
If that person worked 80 hours a week or 40 hours per week of O/T for the full year that equals ($43.26 X 1792) $77,522
(I used 1792 as a basis because it's 2080 hours minus 10 holiday and 26 annual)

So $77,522 + $60,000 = $137,522

Even with shift differential and penalty O/T I don't see how $223,000 is possible.

Now if that person is looking at their yearly benefits statement (do they still send those out yearly) then perhaps the total cost of wages, leave, retirement, TSP, Etc. might be that high. Still doubtful.

Unless I'm missing something $223K is totally bogus.

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#4 Posted : Monday, January 13, 2020 9:41:38 AM(UTC)

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Originally Posted by: Rural guy Go to Quoted Post
Even with shift differential and penalty O/T I don't see how $223,000 is possible.


Mail handlers don't get penalty OT.

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#5 Posted : Monday, January 13, 2020 10:12:37 AM(UTC)

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I too would like to see the source for that.


The mail handler died of exhaustion on January 1, 2019.
I'll post his obit later.
Good enough source?

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#6 Posted : Monday, January 13, 2020 1:02:50 PM(UTC)
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Granted, the numbers don't seem to add up.
But the source is pretty good. Most would say very good.

Here it is, straight from the Office of Inspector General / United States Postal Service:


"One mail handler worked 4,287 regular, overtime, holiday, and premium hours
throughout CY 2018, which resulted in compensation nearly four times his $60,148
basic annual salary ($223,504). Generally there are 2,080 workhours in one
compensation year, averaging 40 hours per week. This individual worked over 100
hours in 33 of the 52 weeks of the year.

In earning over $223,000 in CY 2018, the mail handler’s circumstances
contradicted 39 U.S.C. § 1003(a) which states that no employee shall be paid
compensation at a rate in excess of the rate for ES Level 1."


https://www.uspsoig.gov/...019/19BG009FT000-R20.pdf

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#8 Posted : Tuesday, January 14, 2020 11:56:13 PM(UTC)

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For working 4,287 hours in a single year, this is dedicated to
our industrious, super-human, mail handling brother:

I get up at seven
And I go to work at nine
I got no time for livin'
I'm workin' all the time

It seems to me
I could live my life
A lot better than I think I am
I guess that's why they call me
They call me the workin' man


- From the song "Working Man" (RUSH)


RIP Neil Peart (9/12/52-1/7/20)

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#9 Posted : Saturday, January 18, 2020 1:32:27 PM(UTC)
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This was the guy I had heard about.

Multiple sources, with a range of $200K thru $225K.

So, I guess it was true. Thanks for the official confirmation.


Would you like a little more info...?


He works at one of the largest NDCs in the country.

Heard the place is always a total cluster-eff. High craft-employee turnover. Constant year-round mandatory OT. Even some of the MHAs are pulling in up to $80K.

Sounds like a management issue, to me. Need to attract, hire & retain a larger number & better class of craft-employees. Probably also need to pass on some more of the workload to surrounding plants? Because it's obvious this NDC can't handle it all. Then again, I guess that's what happens when you stupidly shut down way too many facilities.


This top-earning mailhandler, from what I heard, is an older gentleman. Probably has been there a while & has some seniority -- and most likely working Level-5 jobs (operating power equipment) for an extra bump in pay.

Also probably working up to 7 days a week, up to 16 hours a day. Including holidays. Again, this guy doesn't have a very enjoyable or enviable life, in my eyes. But, the opportunity is there -- and he's been jumping on it. Good for him. Though I imagine a good chunk of his income is going straight to taxes.


Here's the crazy part: I heard he doesn't even really "need" the money! He's been doing pretty okay, and apparently is on the frugal side of things. He's at a stage in his life where, IMO, he'd probably be better off spending more time with family/friends/hobbies, etc.

Finally, I know there were a couple mailhandlers in this same NDC who made pretty good $$$ in *2017*, as well. Was he one of them? Wouldn't surprise me. Though I heard that year was under $200K, anyway. ;)


Note to management:

Apparently you don't like the fact that this guy made this much with all the OT? Then stop screwing around... Hire more MHAs. Convert more MHAs to career -- and quicker... None of this waiting 3+ years nonsense. Pay a higher wage so you can attract & retain a better class of craft-employees. Stop treating them like garbage. And last but not least, move some more of this NDC's workload to surrounding plants.

Not rocket science, here. Smarten up.
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#10 Posted : Saturday, January 18, 2020 8:10:47 PM(UTC)
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sounds like this guy willingly went to prison for a year, not worth the $
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#11 Posted : Saturday, January 18, 2020 11:55:11 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: JustSomebody Go to Quoted Post
This was the guy I had heard about.

Multiple sources, with a range of $200K thru $225K.

So, I guess it was true. Thanks for the official confirmation.


Would you like a little more info...?


He works at one of the largest NDCs in the country.

Heard the place is always a total cluster-eff. High craft-employee turnover. Constant year-round mandatory OT. Even some of the MHAs are pulling in up to $80K.

Sounds like a management issue, to me. Need to attract, hire & retain a larger number & better class of craft-employees. Probably also need to pass on some more of the workload to surrounding plants? Because it's obvious this NDC can't handle it all. Then again, I guess that's what happens when you stupidly shut down way too many facilities.


This top-earning mailhandler, from what I heard, is an older gentleman. Probably has been there a while & has some seniority -- and most likely working Level-5 jobs (operating power equipment) for an extra bump in pay.

Also probably working up to 7 days a week, up to 16 hours a day. Including holidays. Again, this guy doesn't have a very enjoyable or enviable life, in my eyes. But, the opportunity is there -- and he's been jumping on it. Good for him. Though I imagine a good chunk of his income is going straight to taxes.


Here's the crazy part: I heard he doesn't even really "need" the money! He's been doing pretty okay, and apparently is on the frugal side of things. He's at a stage in his life where, IMO, he'd probably be better off spending more time with family/friends/hobbies, etc.

Finally, I know there were a couple mailhandlers in this same NDC who made pretty good $$$ in *2017*, as well. Was he one of them? Wouldn't surprise me. Though I heard that year was under $200K, anyway. ;)


Note to management:

Apparently you don't like the fact that this guy made this much with all the OT? Then stop screwing around... Hire more MHAs. Convert more MHAs to career -- and quicker... None of this waiting 3+ years nonsense. Pay a higher wage so you can attract & retain a better class of craft-employees. Stop treating them like garbage. And last but not least, move some more of this NDC's workload to surrounding plants.

Not rocket science, here. Smarten up.


Evidently you’ve “heard” a lot. Smh

EagleDog  
#12 Posted : Sunday, January 19, 2020 7:19:51 AM(UTC)

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Originally Posted by: JustSomebody Go to Quoted Post
Though I imagine a good chunk of his income is going straight to taxes.


One positive note, he wouldn't have paid any Social Security tax (6.2%) on anything over $128,400.

Of course if he's a real old-timer (CSRS), he doesn't pay any Social Security tax anyway.

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#13 Posted : Sunday, January 19, 2020 10:32:53 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Blahblah Go to Quoted Post
Evidently you’ve “heard” a lot. Smh


Yes, I speak with many people.

You don't?


Granted, this is the post office, where rumors abound. So, I take everything I hear with a large grain of salt, regardless of the source.

However, I also compile my findings, observations & experience, then apply logic, common sense, critical thinking & even some MATH(!).


The result is my previous post, which I felt confident enough in publicly sharing the info on this situation, that it's a pretty spot-on assessment -- despite me not personally knowing the guy, nor working at this particular (and infamous!) NDC.

As an aside? If I were 20 years younger, I'd simply uproot & transfer there, myself. No-life it for as long as I could, and totally clean up. CHA-CHING! Eventually, though, I'd have to flee from that place -- you know, like the smart/lucky ones do, in order to salvage whatever sanity remains & to have some semblance of a life.
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#14 Posted : Thursday, January 23, 2020 4:32:04 AM(UTC)

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Originally Posted by: colty31 Go to Quoted Post
sounds like this guy willingly went to prison for a year, not worth the $


I just don't know if I could work nearly 4,300 hours a year at the Post Office.
Not even back when I was just an EaglePup.

But it would be nice seeing my Postmaster every day, knowing that I made more than TWICE
as much as him. Tears of joy and laughter flowing from my bleary, bloodshot eyes.

That would be sweet.
Real sweet.


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#15 Posted : Sunday, January 26, 2020 9:26:11 AM(UTC)

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Saw this posted in another forum:

"First, I am surprised that there is even a Mail Handler craft, anymore. Secondly, I am surprised that these low skilled,
break taking goons will be making $60,000 a year in base salary."

And since the view count for this topic has reached 2112, it's time for another song dedication!!!

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#16 Posted : Monday, January 27, 2020 1:49:24 PM(UTC)
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I know the guy. Never stops working either!
He doesn't speak much English so I've rarely talked to him, but the Legend goes he put multiple kids through medical school.
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#17 Posted : Saturday, February 1, 2020 9:34:20 AM(UTC)

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I know the guy. Never stops working either!
He doesn't speak much English so I've rarely talked to him, but the Legend goes he put multiple kids through medical school.


Where does he work?

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#18 Posted : Saturday, February 1, 2020 1:28:42 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: EagleDog Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: 413 Clerk Go to Quoted Post
I know the guy. Never stops working either!
He doesn't speak much English so I've rarely talked to him, but the Legend goes he put multiple kids through medical school.


Where does he work?



If it's the same guy; the Springfield (MA) NDC.
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#19 Posted : Saturday, February 1, 2020 5:45:25 PM(UTC)
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Speak English or get on the other side of the wall!!!!!
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Speak English or get on the other side of the wall!!!!!


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