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The Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) is an agency of the United States Department of Justice that serves as both a federal criminal investigative body and an internal intelligence agency. The FBI has investigative jurisdiction over violations of more than 200 categories of federal crime.

Headquartered in Washington, DC, the FBI has over 55 field offices located throughout the USA as well as smaller units throughout the world.

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GeorgeofTheJungle  
#1 Posted : Thursday, January 16, 2020 9:58:22 AM(UTC)
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Is anyone familiar with how one qualifies for student loan repayment within the FBI or what the typical amount is? Do employees with more time on receive preference?

As per the below document, it appears 1,924 for the entirety of the Justice Department received some sort of amount for repayment in 2017.

https://www.opm.gov/poli...payment/reports/2017.pdf
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Originally Posted by: GeorgeofTheJungle Go to Quoted Post
Is anyone familiar with how one qualifies for student loan repayment within the FBI or what the typical amount is? Do employees with more time on receive preference?

As per the below document, it appears 1,924 for the entirety of the Justice Department received some sort of amount for repayment in 2017.

https://www.opm.gov/poli...payment/reports/2017.pdf


I too wonder about this. I saw it says an overall maximum of $60K total, with a max of $10K per year. Unfortunately, from what I gather, it is only federal school loans. Most of mine are via Sallie Mae/Navient "Signature or Smart Option Student Loans" considered "private" loans not "federal" and from what I gather would not be eligible for repayment. I am certainly hoping I am wrong.
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#3 Posted : Thursday, January 16, 2020 10:44:01 AM(UTC)
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I was also hoping to take advantage of that. I checked Navient and they all say the current owner is the U.S. Dept of Education and I only remember doing federal loans so I'm really hoping they qualify. I wasn't aware of private loans not qualifying. I've been just making minimum payments since graduation in hopes I can do this program at some point.

Otherwise maybe Bernie or Warren will get in and cancel all of our student loans though, haha
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I was also hoping to take advantage of that. I checked Navient and they all say the current owner is the U.S. Dept of Education and I only remember doing federal loans so I'm really hoping they qualify. I wasn't aware of private loans not qualifying. I've been just making minimum payments since graduation in hopes I can do this program at some point.

Otherwise maybe Bernie or Warren will get in and cancel all of our student loans though, haha


Exactly! They seem to be adamant about making that happen. but I think yours most likely will qualify if they are through the US dept of edu- maybe this is something that is covered in more detail during the ONE session(s) during the first week of Q maybe? Forms/how to go about it, etc.
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The way the website reads, I thought this was something you can ask for during the hiring process. But not something you necessarily get.

Either way, you still qualify for public service loan forgiveness if you have federal loans. So it's not the end of the world.
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#6 Posted : Thursday, January 16, 2020 1:00:20 PM(UTC)
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The way the website reads, I thought this was something you can ask for during the hiring process. But not something you necessarily get.

Either way, you still qualify for public service loan forgiveness if you have federal loans. So it's not the end of the world.


Based on the 2017 document I linked, only 1,924 received the payment for the entirety of the Department of Justice. There are approximately 35,000 employees just in the FBI. its fair to say that only a very small portion of people receive the payment. To qualify for the loan forgiveness program you'd have to be an employee for 10 years. Might as well try to pay it off early haha

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The way the website reads, I thought this was something you can ask for during the hiring process. But not something you necessarily get.

Either way, you still qualify for public service loan forgiveness if you have federal loans. So it's not the end of the world.


Based on the 2017 document I linked, only 1,924 received the payment for the entirety of the Department of Justice. There are approximately 35,000 employees just in the FBI. its fair to say that only a very small portion of people receive the payment. To qualify for the loan forgiveness program you'd have to be an employee for 10 years. Might as well try to pay it off early haha


oh yikes I missed that 10 year requirement that certainly changes a lot for me.
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The way the website reads, I thought this was something you can ask for during the hiring process. But not something you necessarily get.

Either way, you still qualify for public service loan forgiveness if you have federal loans. So it's not the end of the world.


Based on the 2017 document I linked, only 1,924 received the payment for the entirety of the Department of Justice. There are approximately 35,000 employees just in the FBI. its fair to say that only a very small portion of people receive the payment. To qualify for the loan forgiveness program you'd have to be an employee for 10 years. Might as well try to pay it off early haha


oh yikes I missed that 10 year requirement that certainly changes a lot for me.


The 10 year requirement is for the loan forgiveness program. This is different from the loan repayment program. The loan forgiveness program completely wipes away your student loans if you qualify. Certain roles qualify for it such as working in civil service or a non-profit. One of the requirements are that you have to make 120 monthly qualifying payments. Which is where I got the 10 years from.

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The way the website reads, I thought this was something you can ask for during the hiring process. But not something you necessarily get.

Either way, you still qualify for public service loan forgiveness if you have federal loans. So it's not the end of the world.


Based on the 2017 document I linked, only 1,924 received the payment for the entirety of the Department of Justice. There are approximately 35,000 employees just in the FBI. its fair to say that only a very small portion of people receive the payment. To qualify for the loan forgiveness program you'd have to be an employee for 10 years. Might as well try to pay it off early haha


oh yikes I missed that 10 year requirement that certainly changes a lot for me.


The 10 year requirement is for the loan forgiveness program. This is different from from loan repayment program. The loan forgiveness program completely wipes away your student loans if you qualify. Certain roles qualify for it such as working in civil service or a non-profit. One of the requirements are that you have to make 120 monthly qualifying payments.


Oh great. I missed that we were talking about two different programs. Thanks for the clarification.
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Originally Posted by: GeorgeofTheJungle Go to Quoted Post
Is anyone familiar with how one qualifies for student loan repayment within the FBI or what the typical amount is? Do employees with more time on receive preference?

As per the below document, it appears 1,924 for the entirety of the Justice Department received some sort of amount for repayment in 2017.

https://www.opm.gov/poli...payment/reports/2017.pdf


I’m not with FBI, but I am with another DOJ component and received this SLRP. I had to fill out answers to some questions about my degree as it relates to my job, and the amount awarded is based on my latest performance evaluation rating as well as my answers.

I had to agree to stay with the component for 3 years, and if I leave, either voluntarily or involuntarily, I will have to pay the award amount back. The amount you get is taxed.
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Is anyone familiar with how one qualifies for student loan repayment within the FBI or what the typical amount is? Do employees with more time on receive preference?

As per the below document, it appears 1,924 for the entirety of the Justice Department received some sort of amount for repayment in 2017.

https://www.opm.gov/poli...payment/reports/2017.pdf


I’m not with FBI, but I am with another DOJ component and received this SLRP. I had to fill out answers to some questions about my degree as it relates to my job, and the amount awarded is based on my latest performance evaluation rating as well as my answers.

I had to agree to stay with the component for 3 years, and if I leave, either voluntarily or involuntarily, I will have to pay the award amount back. The amount you get is taxed.


It’s taxed? So it’s considered income? Didn’t expect an award to be taxed.
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I’m not with FBI, but I am with another DOJ component and received this SLRP. I had to fill out answers to some questions about my degree as it relates to my job, and the amount awarded is based on my latest performance evaluation rating as well as my answers.

I had to agree to stay with the component for 3 years, and if I leave, either voluntarily or involuntarily, I will have to pay the award amount back. The amount you get is taxed.


It’s taxed? So it’s considered income? Didn’t expect an award to be taxed.


I’m calling it an award, but I don’t know if that’s the right terminology. Yeah, it’s taxed like regular income.

For the next 2 years I will continue to receive this loan repayment, and the amount for each year will also be based on my performance ratings. For this 1st year, since I’m new to the agency, I had to provide my rating from the agency I transferred from.

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I’m not with FBI, but I am with another DOJ component and received this SLRP. I had to fill out answers to some questions about my degree as it relates to my job, and the amount awarded is based on my latest performance evaluation rating as well as my answers.

I had to agree to stay with the component for 3 years, and if I leave, either voluntarily or involuntarily, I will have to pay the award amount back. The amount you get is taxed.


It’s taxed? So it’s considered income? Didn’t expect an award to be taxed.


I’m calling it an award, but I don’t know if that’s the right terminology. Yeah, it’s taxed like regular income.

For the next 2 years I will continue to receive this loan repayment, and the amount for each year will also be based on my performance ratings. For this 1st year, since I’m new to the agency, I had to provide my rating from the agency I transferred from.


Oh I see, so then you can’t even apply for it till you receive a performance review. So you have to wait for one year essentially.

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It’s taxed?

Oh I see, so then you can’t even apply for it till you receive a performance review. So you have to wait for one year essentially.




At least that’s how it works in our component. Not sure if it applies to FBI.

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I was also hoping to take advantage of that. I checked Navient and they all say the current owner is the U.S. Dept of Education and I only remember doing federal loans so I'm really hoping they qualify. I wasn't aware of private loans not qualifying. I've been just making minimum payments since graduation in hopes I can do this program at some point.

Otherwise maybe Bernie or Warren will get in and cancel all of our student loans though, haha


Honestly,I'm completely underwhelmed by the talk of student loan forgiveness by the various politicians. The proposals are typically limited to 30 or 40k. So, basically, it's just forgiveness for those who can afford to pay it off anyway. Most people with a bs should be able to pay that. Many people CAN afford to pay their student loans and those that can, are obviously the people with smaller amounts. The people that need help, that can't pay them are the ones that have larger amounts. No one is talking about helping them. Its just a way of getting votes by promising a certain demographic money.

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I can speak about this. As stated earlier, it is a maximum of $10,000/year (pre-tax) with a lifetime maximum of $60,000 (pre-tax). You have to be in the Bureau for at least a year before being eligible to apply. Open season to apply is usually in May. It is very competitive and you are ranked by your division heads based on the application you and your supervisor fill out. This includes discussing your skills and accomplishments that makes retaining you necessary. Those who have hard to recruit jobs requiring specific skills, such as Computer Scientists and IT Specialists, receive it automatically as long as they apply. Only about a quarter of applicants are awarded.

As stated earlier, the award is taxed. In recent years, awards have been $8k, about $5.5k after taxes. You have to sign a 3 year service agreement (within DOJ) upon receiving the award. Whether you win the award once or multiple times, only one service agreement extension is required. However, it seems those who have been lucky enough to be awarded are only awarded once, despite subsequent applications. For many, $5.5k for 3 years of being locked within the DOJ makes it not worth it unless of course you decide the Bureau/DOJ is where you want to stay long term. You can always pay it back if you leave (full amount including taxes).

As long as the loans are federal loans, despite being sold to another loan servicer, they will be paid to directly. Just make sure the loans are still considered federal loans.
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I can speak about this. As stated earlier, it is a maximum of $10,000/year (pre-tax) with a lifetime maximum of $60,000 (pre-tax). You have to be in the Bureau for at least a year before being eligible to apply. Open season to apply is usually in May. It is very competitive and you are ranked by your division heads based on the application you and your supervisor fill out. This includes discussing your skills and accomplishments that makes retaining you necessary. Those who have hard to recruit jobs requiring specific skills, such as Computer Scientists and IT Specialists, receive it automatically as long as they apply. Only about a quarter of applicants are awarded.

As stated earlier, the award is taxed. In recent years, awards have been $8k, about $5.5k after taxes. You have to sign a 3 year service agreement (within DOJ) upon receiving the award. Whether you win the award once or multiple times, only one service agreement extension is required. However, it seems those who have been lucky enough to be awarded are only awarded once, despite subsequent applications. For many, $5.5k for 3 years of being locked within the DOJ makes it not worth it unless of course you decide the Bureau/DOJ is where you want to stay long term. You can always pay it back if you leave (full amount including taxes).

As long as the loans are federal loans, despite being sold to another loan servicer, they will be paid to directly. Just make sure the loans are still considered federal loans.


Thanks for the clarification. I wasn’t aware the three year service agreement was for the FBI specifically. I was under the impression it was for federal service in general.

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Meh, I consider 3 years pretty standard at staying in one job. Less than 2 full years on the resume looks like job hopping or not being fit for the job.
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I was also hoping to take advantage of that. I checked Navient and they all say the current owner is the U.S. Dept of Education and I only remember doing federal loans so I'm really hoping they qualify. I wasn't aware of private loans not qualifying. I've been just making minimum payments since graduation in hopes I can do this program at some point.

Otherwise maybe Bernie or Warren will get in and cancel all of our student loans though, haha


Honestly,I'm completely underwhelmed by the talk of student loan forgiveness by the various politicians. The proposals are typically limited to 30 or 40k. So, basically, it's just forgiveness for those who can afford to pay it off anyway. Most people with a bs should be able to pay that. Many people CAN afford to pay their student loans and those that can, are obviously the people with smaller amounts. The people that need help, that can't pay them are the ones that have larger amounts. No one is talking about helping them. Its just a way of getting votes by promising a certain demographic money.


Oh yeah just to clarify my comment was more of a sarcastic jab. I'll leave it at that and avoid any political conversation though.
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