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#1 Posted : Wednesday, February 5, 2020 5:29:05 PM(UTC)

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This is my first post, however I have been browsing the forums since becoming a DOD employee in 2018.

I received a tenantive offer from the FAA for a 2101-F Airway transportation systems specialist. I am currently a DOD NJ-03 Electronic Technician making $75,500(Gs-11 step 2 equivalent). My offer came in at $78,184 including locality which is maxed out in the F payband. This job would require me to move across the country and does not offer relocation.

Do you think it's worth trying to negotiate a higher salary and try to move into the G pay band? Or would they already say it's an increase.

Thanks in advance for any help provided.

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#2 Posted : Wednesday, February 19, 2020 2:42:36 PM(UTC)

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I was USAF 4 years, then hired FAA in 1978, Service Computation date of May 1974. I retired from O'Hare FAA in 2012 as an F band.
I was there as a GS-12, step 8 in 2000 when the FAA transitioned over to the new pay scale, and there are many problems with it, but it is what it is.

Since they are not under the GS Scale, there are many things they DO NOT do but apply to the GS scale. From 2000 to 2010, the GS folks received the
Grade increases, for instance, if the GS scale went up by 2.8%, for almost half of that time, they never raised the FG scale, and consequently, they fell
further and further behind. Our "GS-12" pay bands are now the equivalent of GS-11 comparatively speaking, although I hear "THEY" are trying to change it.

It's still a great job and I enjoyed my almost 39 years, so I won't complain, because I was one of the older ones that got great benefits.
The 2000 PASS Contract (our union) negotiated the ability to go OVER the GS-12 scale depending on awards, etc. I made the equivalent of what is now
a GS-14,step 2, plus we had a 10% retention pay of BASE PAY (only 3 areas in the country) to entice people to NOT leave high volume places like O'Hare and others.
My annual pay (24/7/365 shift work and all 10 holiday pay) approached 150K (I was CSRS, but all are in FERS Now)

Eventually, they rolled that into the base pay at 8.2%, but I'd have to stay around another 3 years to take advantage of it, but no thanks. 39 years is enough.
The FAA eventually put that horse back into the barn, coz it got out of the barn in 2000. The new contract became effective in 2013, and I think they're doing another.

I believe Congress gave 12 weeks of paid leave to new parents, but the FAA is NOT under the GS scales, and they're trying to get it applied to them now. Good Luck there.

If you're on FaceBook, I highly suggest you join the ATSS-2101 group there, as they have more relevant and new information I may not be aware of. Below is the link....


Good Luck, happy hunting. They have all the ins and outs in our group.
RETIRED CSRS 12/19/2012 @ age 57 w/39 years.
Good Bye Tension...Hello Pension !
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