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The Department of Defense (DoD) is charged with coordinating and supervising all agencies and functions of the government relating directly to national security and the United States armed forces. The mission of the Department of Defense is to provide the military forces needed to deter war and to protect the security of our country.

The Department of Defense is America's oldest and largest government agency -tracing its roots back to pre-Revolutionary times. Today, the Department is not only in charge of the military, but it also employs a civilian force of thousands. With over 1.4 million men and women on active duty, and 718,000 civilian personnel, DoD is the nation's largest employer. Another 1.1 million serve in the National Guard and Reserve forces. More than 2 million military retirees and their family members receive benefits.

Perhaps you are working for the DoD or interested in working for the DoD. Here is a forum to share your experience with the DoD.
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euphonix8  
#21 Posted : Thursday, August 27, 2020 10:21:34 AM(UTC)
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So this is somewhat of a serious question that after doing some research may or may not disqualify me. I am reading how dependents with certain disabilities may deny your family accompaning you overseas (well if you are active duty Navy and Marines at least). Our 2 year old son has a speech disorder, he hasn't been diagnosed as autistic but, the possibility is there. Will this preclude me from an overseas DOD assignment?
It depends. My wife was on EFMP while I was active duty, and it did cause a change in assignment one time as the initial base didn't have the appropriate specialists she needed nearby, and it resulted in us ending up in Denver instead. Same is true overseas. The local clinic will figure out if they can support the medical needs or if support is available locally. If not, that means the family cannot accompany the member to that location.

So depending on your child's needs, they will have to identify if the local area has the specialties to ensure your son gets the appropriate treatment.



To be clear, if you are a civilian you are not actually enrolled in the exceptional family member program and they cannot deny you the assignment because of your family members condition.

"Selection for positions will not be affected by whether or not individuals have
exceptional family members. The purpose of collecting EFMP information is to provide
individuals with advance information on educational and medical-related services so
they may make an informed decision about accepting a position and to ensure a
smooth transition for their families."

https://home.army.mil/ok..._updated_28_Jun_2019.pdf
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#22 Posted : Sunday, August 30, 2020 4:30:16 PM(UTC)
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So is there any hope of me being able to negotiate my way to a higher step for an overseas position like this? I was able to negotiate my current job to step 3 (I'm currently a 4) due to me making comparable pay in the private sector before I took my current GS position. Given that the base pay for a GS-11 Step 10 without locality is basically identical to my current Step 4 pay with the locality rate, will I be able to negotiate to a Step 10 for this position or am I out of my mind? I really want to go to Okinawa but I'm weary of my wife not being able to find a nursing job for an extended period of time (talking 6 months or longer).
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#23 Posted : Monday, August 31, 2020 3:27:46 AM(UTC)
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So is there any hope of me being able to negotiate my way to a higher step for an overseas position like this? I was able to negotiate my current job to step 3 (I'm currently a 4) due to me making comparable pay in the private sector before I took my current GS position. Given that the base pay for a GS-11 Step 10 without locality is basically identical to my current Step 4 pay with the locality rate, will I be able to negotiate to a Step 10 for this position or am I out of my mind? I really want to go to Okinawa but I'm weary of my wife not being able to find a nursing job for an extended period of time (talking 6 months or longer).
Short answer: No. You are already a federal employee, so OPM pay setting rules apply.

And remember, your housing costs (unlike right now when you are in CONUS) are taken care of via LQA, so you will have more usable
income even though you are on the Base Pay table. And there are several military bases on Okinawa, all with clinics, etc, plus potentially off-base. If nothing else, your wife can teach English to Japanese nationals (I've known a few people who have done this over the years) until she can land a position herself in her field.
You should have voted Cthulu...the greatest of all Evils
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#24 Posted : Wednesday, September 2, 2020 4:16:39 PM(UTC)
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Well I got an interview setup for next week. We'll see how this goes down.
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#25 Posted : Friday, September 4, 2020 5:04:03 AM(UTC)
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So hypothetically if I get this overseas position what benefits are inherent in an overseas position? I was discussing the possibility of leaving with my current supervisor and he mentioned I accumulate more leave (I guess less use or lose?) and that it's leave that I never lose or something like that? Are there any other perks?
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Originally Posted by: wrestlingshadows81 Go to Quoted Post
So hypothetically if I get this overseas position what benefits are inherent in an overseas position? I was discussing the possibility of leaving with my current supervisor and he mentioned I accumulate more leave (I guess less use or lose?) and that it's leave that I never lose or something like that? Are there any other perks?

You can accumulate more leave before you get to use or lose.
Within the US, you can accumulate 30 days of leave (240 hours) before you get to a use or lose point.
Outside the US, you can accumulate 45 days of leave (360 hours) before you get there.
See https://www.opm.gov/policy-data-...act-sheets/annual-leave/

If you let it build up to the full 45 days and return to the US, it will stay at that level until you tap into it and then once you hit 240, you will not be able to go beyond that (unless you go back outside the US).

You could also get home leave https://www.fedweek.com/reg-jone...e-leave-and-shore-leave/.

LQA for housing costs, COLA (to account for exchange rates and cost of living differences between your duty location and the US-based on purchasing power in DC, IIRC).

You should have voted Cthulu...the greatest of all Evils
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#27 Posted : Friday, September 4, 2020 2:38:11 PM(UTC)
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So how does health insurance work over there? I have Blue Cross Blue Shield Federal and it covers me here but how about if I go to Okinawa? Do I get different insurance or something?
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So how does health insurance work over there? I have Blue Cross Blue Shield Federal and it covers me here but how about if I go to Okinawa? Do I get different insurance or something?


BCBS covers you overseas. While we were there, the Naval Hospital stopped directly billing insurance companies. So whether we got healthcare on base or off, we paid out of pocket and submitted a claim to BCBS for reimbursement. I think you can also submit the itemized bill to BCBS and have them pay the provider directly.
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So how does health insurance work over there? I have Blue Cross Blue Shield Federal and it covers me here but how about if I go to Okinawa? Do I get different insurance or something?


BCBS covers you overseas. While we were there, the Naval Hospital stopped directly billing insurance companies. So whether we got healthcare on base or off, we paid out of pocket and submitted a claim to BCBS for reimbursement. I think you can also submit the itemized bill to BCBS and have them pay the provider directly.


On a related matter - the naval hospital is probably the LAST place I would ever use UNLESS you have Tricare. They don't list any price for even the most common service (ie health check up, xray, eye exam, etc.) and their bill takes anywhere from 6-12 months to arrive. I had a bill arrive about a year late and by that time, my insurance wouldn't cover it anymore.

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#30 Posted : Tuesday, September 15, 2020 10:21:29 AM(UTC)
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So just to update everyone I turned down the chance of the assignment because of my son. I did all my research and even contacted the medical facility for more information and there is literally no available resources for the type of therapy my son may need. On the brightside the lady who was in charge of the interviews/hiring said if things change with my son that there is going to be a second position opening up in a few months.
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Originally Posted by: wrestlingshadows81 Go to Quoted Post
So just to update everyone I turned down the chance of the assignment because of my son. I did all my research and even contacted the medical facility for more information and there is literally no available resources for the type of therapy my son may need. On the brightside the lady who was in charge of the interviews/hiring said if things change with my son that there is going to be a second position opening up in a few months.


Yea, this seems to be a recurring issue from what I've seen in Japan. I had multiple colleagues come to Japan while I was there and then have to go home because they didn't anticipate the lack of support available for their children with particular needs. It would be great if they would improve the overseas family support system, but it doesn't seem to be a priority for them. Obviously that could be very different in other areas, but that was what it seemed like in Japan.
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