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The Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) is an agency of the United States Department of Justice that serves as both a federal criminal investigative body and an internal intelligence agency. The FBI has investigative jurisdiction over violations of more than 200 categories of federal crime.

Headquartered in Washington, DC, the FBI has over 55 field offices located throughout the USA as well as smaller units throughout the world.

Perhaps you are working for the FBI or interested in working for the FBI. Here is a forum to share your experience with the FBI.

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tamvid11  
#781 Posted : Friday, May 7, 2021 8:16:09 AM(UTC)
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Thank you @tamvid11 for providing a recommended packing list. I have not received this information officially yet.

What are your favorite hiking boots and wrestling shoes? There are so many to choose from! haha



You can find the very limited packing list on the FBI on-boarding paperwork site.
As for boots - 5/11 have some great options, but I think my favorite are Under Armour tactical boots. I've got a couple pairs and they are great. The actual packing list says brown hiking boots, so they really don't care the brand or style. Just something comfortable for you to do daily stuff in.
https://www.fbi.gov/file...-new-agent-trainees/view


I have a pair of these:
https://www.rei.com/rei-...rproof-hiking-boots-mens

Think those would work?


As long as they are comfortable to wear daily, those look great to me!
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#782 Posted : Friday, May 7, 2021 11:03:59 AM(UTC)
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Just want to say good luck to everybody in the class of 2021!

I will be signing on and applying in 2022 once I get my affairs in order. Really exciting times.

1. For those of you who are married and have children, what did you end up doing in terms of your children and spouse when you were away? Would you say it's difficult or manageable? Did it affect you in any way?

My wife is on board with it. Of course she worries for my safety but she knows that if I don't do it, I'll end up regretting it when I'm older.

2. For those of you in the field that are more experienced and graduated, did the job affect how your kids are/were raised?


Any help on this would be greatly appreciated!
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#783 Posted : Friday, May 7, 2021 11:58:10 AM(UTC)
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I know this answer will heavily way on personal background, but on average how long from PSI to adjudication? Do they adjudicate before the Pre-Q pft?


I had my PSI in mid-November 2020 and was adjudicated mid-February 2021. My pre-Q PFT is next Friday and assuming all goes well, I should be at Q in August.


3 months for your BI? Wow that was fast. Good for you. Hope mine can be that quick.
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#784 Posted : Friday, May 7, 2021 12:05:44 PM(UTC)
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I know this answer will heavily way on personal background, but on average how long from PSI to adjudication? Do they adjudicate before the Pre-Q pft?


I had my PSI in mid-November 2020 and was adjudicated mid-February 2021. My pre-Q PFT is next Friday and assuming all goes well, I should be at Q in August.


3 months for your BI? Wow that was fast. Good for you. Hope mine can be that quick.



I always like to throw the in the data point of, that there’s the other end of the spectrum like this as well for BI. I had my poly 30 July and was Adjudicated/cleared mid September. The norm appears to be a few months, but can also be lightning fast.
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#785 Posted : Friday, May 7, 2021 2:36:45 PM(UTC)
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Hey everyone.

As I prepare to apply, I've been doing a lot of research and trying to prepare as best as possible. With that being said, I've seen quite a few posts around her about Carole Martin, the FBI Phase 2 interview coach. Has anyone here used her or any of her materials to prepare for any part of the application / interview process? What are your thoughts / experiences / concerns?

Any input is appreciated. Ill be applying by the end of next week hopefully.

Thanks everyone
App: 6/21
P1: 6/21
M&G: 7/21
PII W: 8/21
PII I: 9/21
CAO: 9/21
Poly: Pending


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#786 Posted : Friday, May 7, 2021 3:32:02 PM(UTC)
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Hey everyone.

As I prepare to apply, I've been doing a lot of research and trying to prepare as best as possible. With that being said, I've seen quite a few posts around her about Carole Martin, the FBI Phase 2 interview coach. Has anyone here used her or any of her materials to prepare for any part of the application / interview process? What are your thoughts / experiences / concerns?

Any input is appreciated. Ill be applying by the end of next week hopefully.

Thanks everyone



I used her to help prep for phase II. It was definitely helpful. It helped me craft a narrative, fine tune my stories, and feel more confident in them.

I passed on my first attempt.


However, is it necessary? Not at all! If you focus on the advice in this thread and others (focus on having 2-3 stories for each core competency, draw from all areas of life, use STAR format, etc) you should be fine.

Preparation is key.... but spending hundreds of bucks? only if you feel really unconfident and need practice.

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P2W:8/20
P2I:9/20
PFT:11/20
CO:11/20
PSI:12/20
Poly:1/21
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Hey everyone.

As I prepare to apply, I've been doing a lot of research and trying to prepare as best as possible. With that being said, I've seen quite a few posts around her about Carole Martin, the FBI Phase 2 interview coach. Has anyone here used her or any of her materials to prepare for any part of the application / interview process? What are your thoughts / experiences / concerns?

Any input is appreciated. Ill be applying by the end of next week hopefully.

Thanks everyone



I used her to help prep for phase II. It was definitely helpful. It helped me craft a narrative, fine tune my stories, and feel more confident in them.

I passed on my first attempt.

However, is it necessary? Not at all! If you focus on the advice in this thread and others (focus on having 2-3 stories for each core competency, draw from all areas of life, use STAR format, etc) you should be fine.

Preparation is key.... but spending hundreds of bucks? only if you feel really unconfident and need practice.



Thanks for the input. I feel pretty good about organizing my stories in the STAR format. But Im also not concerned with spending $600 for her full package. At the end of the day... what's $600 for my dream job? And if I didnt do it, and failed P2, I wouldn't be able to live with myself.

Does she do resume critiquing too? Or is she only focused on P2 prep?
App: 6/21
P1: 6/21
M&G: 7/21
PII W: 8/21
PII I: 9/21
CAO: 9/21
Poly: Pending


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#788 Posted : Friday, May 7, 2021 4:15:57 PM(UTC)
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Hey everyone.

As I prepare to apply, I've been doing a lot of research and trying to prepare as best as possible. With that being said, I've seen quite a few posts around her about Carole Martin, the FBI Phase 2 interview coach. Has anyone here used her or any of her materials to prepare for any part of the application / interview process? What are your thoughts / experiences / concerns?

Any input is appreciated. Ill be applying by the end of next week hopefully.

Thanks everyone



As a current federal employee, I was used to the STAR method and these type of interview questions, but still failed my first phase II. I went back and forth on using her services the second go around, but finally bit the bullet the week before my interview. I wouldn’t have been able to live with myself if I’d failed the second time and not used some type of prep.


I passed my second time. What she helped me a lot with was to come up with 3 solid stories...5 at most, that you can morph into any/all the competencies. There’s no way my brain could remember 2-3 stories per competency and walk into an hour interview and be able to regurgitate that. I didn’t buy her full package...I can’t remember exactly but it was the middle option she offered.

Maybe they couldn’t read my hand writing on the written portion on my first try...I don’t know. Can I 100% place my passing on her services? That’s hard to say...but she did help immensely in tweaking my stories. Not to mention her brutal honesty will sure make you work harder developing good ones.
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Just want to say good luck to everybody in the class of 2021!

I will be signing on and applying in 2022 once I get my affairs in order. Really exciting times.

1. For those of you who are married and have children, what did you end up doing in terms of your children and spouse when you were away? Would you say it's difficult or manageable? Did it affect you in any way?

My wife is on board with it. Of course she worries for my safety but she knows that if I don't do it, I'll end up regretting it when I'm older.

2. For those of you in the field that are more experienced and graduated, did the job affect how your kids are/were raised?


Any help on this would be greatly appreciated!


I had a four year old and an infant when I reported. It was tough. My wife worked nights and was about 1500 miles away. It took a lot but my wife is strong and we made it. She came to VA on two occasions and I flew home twice.

I have been in for over ten years. The job hasn't changed how my kids were raised. It's a great job. Depending on your squad you may miss some events, weekends, or birthdays. But not many. Most supervisors know what it's like and make sure you have a healthy work life balance. Of course you will have a weapon in the house if you don't already. Good luck, it's a great job.

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Wanted to ask this again bc it got lost in all the WiFi talk:

Had my poly the other day and definitely left feeling pretty crappy. For those that took theirs already-

Did any of you leave being told it went well?

How many of you left feeling like you failed or even being told you failed? Feel free to PM too if you want. Thanks!
COmtbr  
#791 Posted : Monday, May 10, 2021 11:05:19 AM(UTC)
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Hey guys... I know I've been on here asking a lot of entry / basic questions. Heres another.

I just finished up college, last week. Successfully graduated. I have everything in order to submit my application, except my transcripts. I need to have official or unofficial to apply. But my official transcripts wont be ready until June 4th. And my unofficial one does not say I've successfully graduated and earned the degree (although it does have all of my credits on it).

Should I wait until I am able tp get my official transcripts with a reflection of my graduation? Or will my unofficial suffice, since it shows all my of my credits? I am also able to get a letter of completion from my advisor that says I have completed all required courses. I could attach that with my application?

I'd hate to add another month of waiting for my transcripts, since it's taking over 1.5 years to get through the process alaready. But I don't want to shoot myself in the foot right out of the gate by submitting transcripts that don't reflect my graduation.

Should I also reach out to an FBI recruiter and see if what I have is good?

Thanks guys and gals.
App: 6/21
P1: 6/21
M&G: 7/21
PII W: 8/21
PII I: 9/21
CAO: 9/21
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COmtbr  
#792 Posted : Monday, May 10, 2021 11:31:37 AM(UTC)
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Hey guys... I know I've been on here asking a lot of entry / basic questions. Heres another.

I just finished up college, last week. Successfully graduated. I have everything in order to submit my application, except my transcripts. I need to have official or unofficial to apply. But my official transcripts wont be ready until June 4th. And my unofficial one does not say I've successfully graduated and earned the degree (although it does have all of my credits on it).

Should I wait until I am able tp get my official transcripts with a reflection of my graduation? Or will my unofficial suffice, since it shows all my of my credits? I am also able to get a letter of completion from my advisor that says I have completed all required courses. I could attach that with my application?

I'd hate to add another month of waiting for my transcripts, since it's taking over 1.5 years to get through the process alaready. But I don't want to shoot myself in the foot right out of the gate by submitting transcripts that don't reflect my graduation.

Should I also reach out to an FBI recruiter and see if what I have is good?

Thanks guys and gals.


I think you answered your own question with the best possible answer. If I was in your shoes, I would not submit my application until I have spoken with a recruiter and outlined my resume/application. They will be able to give you, first and foremost, an idea about whether or not you are qualified/likely to be ranked competitive. They'll also be able to answer questions about your transcript situation.

I would seriously hound an FBI recruiter (or better yet, the Applicant Coordinator of your nearest field office) about whether or not you'd be ranked competitive and move through the process. I don't have enough info to assess your situation and every situation is different, but I am fairly confident few, if any, applicants fresh out of college make it far in the process.


Thanks for the response. I’m not just fresh out of college. Spent 6 years in the military. I’m confident with my prior work experience. I just don’t want to shoot myself in the foot by applying with unofficial transcripts that don’t fully reflect my graduation. I may just have to wait out the month until I get them.
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M&G: 7/21
PII W: 8/21
PII I: 9/21
CAO: 9/21
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Just want to say good luck to everybody in the class of 2021!

I will be signing on and applying in 2022 once I get my affairs in order. Really exciting times.

1. For those of you who are married and have children, what did you end up doing in terms of your children and spouse when you were away? Would you say it's difficult or manageable? Did it affect you in any way?

My wife is on board with it. Of course she worries for my safety but she knows that if I don't do it, I'll end up regretting it when I'm older.

2. For those of you in the field that are more experienced and graduated, did the job affect how your kids are/were raised?


Any help on this would be greatly appreciated!


I had a four year old and an infant when I reported. It was tough. My wife worked nights and was about 1500 miles away. It took a lot but my wife is strong and we made it. She came to VA on two occasions and I flew home twice.

I have been in for over ten years. The job hasn't changed how my kids were raised. It's a great job. Depending on your squad you may miss some events, weekends, or birthdays. But not many. Most supervisors know what it's like and make sure you have a healthy work life balance. Of course you will have a weapon in the house if you don't already. Good luck, it's a great job.



Thanks for this. I don't have children yet, and I was a bit worried the recruiters were underselling the demands of the position.

Do the demands vary significantly based on the violation you're working?
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Wanted to ask this again bc it got lost in all the WiFi talk:

Had my poly the other day and definitely left feeling pretty crappy. For those that took theirs already-

Did any of you leave being told it went well?

How many of you left feeling like you failed or even being told you failed? Feel free to PM too if you want. Thanks!


After my poly they told me I passed right then and there. They sent me to another room to get my fingerprints and drug test done. Hopefully you hear something soon!
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How long after your poly did someone reach out to you about scheduling your medical? I’m assuming I failed (even though I was 100% honest) based on what was said to me after the exam.

Good luck to everyone in this process. It’s a bear!


Been a couple weeks and still waiting to hear. Anyone know how quick the failed polygraph letters usually go out? Do they still send out the failed letters via snail mail?

I’ve heard people say no news is good news but seems like if you pass, you would hear about scheduling medical.


Finally, just wanted to say thanks to the posters on this thread. Information has been very helpful and it’s been a great time killer during this long process.


Hey OTFTP,

Great question and glad the forum has been helpful! I heard nothing about passing or failing for at least two weeks. Then, one day seemingly out-of-the-blue, I got a call to schedule medical with no formal "you passed the polygraph" communication. Like others may have already said, I think you would know pretty soon after if you failed and that no comms means they are working on getting your med scheduled. Have you followed up with your AC? Perhaps they'll have real info they can give you.
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Good morning all,

For those who have gone through/are about to go thru Q during the covid era, during the two week quarantine in the Jefferson dorm, was there a microwave? Was there a television? Trying to figure out logistics before shipping in June.
7/19 - app
8/19 - Ph 1
1/20 - M&G
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9/20 - Ph 2 I
10/20 - PFT/CAO
12/20 - PSI/Poly
1/21 - Med
6/21 - BFTC
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Wanted to ask this again bc it got lost in all the WiFi talk:

Had my poly the other day and definitely left feeling pretty crappy. For those that took theirs already-

Did any of you leave being told it went well?

How many of you left feeling like you failed or even being told you failed? Feel free to PM too if you want. Thanks!


After my poly they told me I passed right then and there. They sent me to another room to get my fingerprints and drug test done. Hopefully you hear something soon!


Similar happened to me but with the caveat that HQ quality control would need to approve. Fingerprints and drug test done right after. Medical exam schedule email came the next day.
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Wanted to ask this again bc it got lost in all the WiFi talk:

Had my poly the other day and definitely left feeling pretty crappy. For those that took theirs already-

Did any of you leave being told it went well?

How many of you left feeling like you failed or even being told you failed? Feel free to PM too if you want. Thanks!


After my poly they told me I passed right then and there. They sent me to another room to get my fingerprints and drug test done. Hopefully you hear something soon!


I never feel good after a poly... but if they didn't say you failed on the spot, you're usually good. I've taken several for different agencies over the years and FBI by far felt the worst. It was short and sweet, but the investigator was CONTSTANTLY challenging me on my answers, and would almost give me a snarky response after I answered truthfully and with confidence.

That said. It was rough. I've never heard the "you passed" from any investigator, just that they would send it up to HQ for review. This is done regardless of what you're told in the room. I've been told it would be inconclusive after, and it was. But never pass - the wait to hear is excruciating.

I'd say if it's been around 2 weeks, your AC would know the outcome. I wouldn't think they would wait this long to say inconclusive, and no news is good news for these types of things. GOOD LUCK!
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Update for everyone, I will not be attending the June class. No process delays or anything, just need to dot my i's and cross my t's before I can take off.

Also, for those that are still training for the pft, my previous advice still stands. I improved in nearly every event from my previous pft. And remember to drink lots of water, depending on where you are the heat can really sneak up on you, even if you usually train in it.
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Good morning all,

For those who have gone through/are about to go thru Q during the covid era, during the two week quarantine in the Jefferson dorm, was there a microwave? Was there a television? Trying to figure out logistics before shipping in June.


Hopefully once you get there you can shed some light on a few things for all of us to follow! I've been curious on how laundry will get done during those 2 weeks? Access to the laundry room, or do we just wash everything in the shower in our rooms and hang to dry? 2 weeks of dirty closes in a closed of space is not going to be good... Will mail be delivered like the food? Also, please let us know if there are or we are allowed to have a coffee pot in the room... I have a spare Keurig I'm hoping to take!

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