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#1 Posted : Thursday, January 7, 2021 4:34:50 PM(UTC)
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When you request to see the union to your supervisor, do you have to tell your supervisor why?

For example A: I want to see the union.
B: Why do you want to see the union?
A: I don't need to tell you.

Do you get in trouble or not if you do this? Because I called the union office and she told me I can but I have a feeling she could be wrong.
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#2 Posted : Thursday, January 7, 2021 7:47:39 PM(UTC)
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No, and yes. You can be general in you reason for requesting steward time.

http://www.postalemploye...com/belden-factor-37.htm
Those who are, know those who are not.

If you think they are after you, what did you do wrong?
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autopilot on 1/8/2021(UTC), New Guy 2021 on 1/8/2021(UTC)
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#3 Posted : Friday, January 8, 2021 6:56:32 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: autopilot Go to Quoted Post
When you request to see the union to your supervisor, do you have to tell your supervisor why?

For example A: I want to see the union.
B: Why do you want to see the union?
A: I don't need to tell you.

Do you get in trouble or not if you do this? Because I called the union office and she told me I can but I have a feeling she could be wrong.


You are contractually obligated to give a reason. However that reason can be as previously pointed out, very general in nature. In some cases it may be better if you give an exact answer, as the potential threat of a grievance can encourage a supervisor to fix the issue immediately. For example, you were scheduled for overtime and are not on the list, yet there's an ODL carrier available. In that case, a smart supervisor would be able to correct that mistake immediately. So there are times where is appropriate to be very detailed in your complaint and others where it's more fun to simply make them squirm.
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#4 Posted : Friday, January 8, 2021 3:12:08 PM(UTC)
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No, and yes. You can be general in you reason for requesting steward time.

http://www.postalemploye...com/belden-factor-37.htm


This is a very good website. Thank you for let me know about this website. Very good article with real-life situations as examples rather than statements stating laws and rules.
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#5 Posted : Saturday, January 9, 2021 1:37:42 AM(UTC)
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No, and yes. You can be general in you reason for requesting steward time.

http://www.postalemploye...com/belden-factor-37.htm


This is a very good website. Thank you for let me know about this website. Very good article with real-life situations as examples rather than statements stating laws and rules.


Real life examples are good, but so are exact rules. You need to both know what the rules are and how they are applied, both locally and nationally. That one of the reasons that people on this forum prior to it becoming a cesspool of argument, would often ask posters to provide details, so that answers might be better tailored to their actual situation.
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#6 Posted : Sunday, January 10, 2021 9:26:45 AM(UTC)
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No, and yes. You can be general in you reason for requesting steward time.

http://www.postalemploye...com/belden-factor-37.htm


This is a very good website. Thank you for let me know about this website. Very good article with real-life situations as examples rather than statements stating laws and rules.


Denny Belden was a legend on these forums for knowing his ***** and sticking it to management. His articles molded me to be the effective union officer i am. I believe he retired then simply disappeared. I pray he is enjoying retirement.
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