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Donnyg  
#1 Posted : Tuesday, February 9, 2021 2:59:34 PM(UTC)
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I am a regular who can not take on over time due dependent care as much as I need the money. That being said I’m 8hrs only and on any holiday management has gone around and asked if carriers were available or willing to work their holiday in the past 3 offices I’ve been in. Now they just post a holiday schedule with forced employees there was never an option and furthermore a few cca’s are ns. When did this become acceptable. I know I can just call out but it’s the sheer disregard for carriers that’s seems unacceptable. (Yes I know the post office hates it’s most valuable asset and that’s how things have always been)
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#2 Posted : Tuesday, February 9, 2021 3:19:28 PM(UTC)
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furthermore a few cca’s are ns. When did this become acceptable.


What does your LMOU say about the pecking order? Again, what is your steward going to do about it?
I am a professional toilet scrubber for 38 yrs and never carried b4.
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#3 Posted : Wednesday, February 10, 2021 6:53:55 AM(UTC)
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furthermore a few cca’s are ns. When did this become acceptable.


What does your LMOU say about the pecking order? Again, what is your steward going to do about it?


What do you know about being a carrier you toilet scrubber?

You can't even spell it correct!
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#4 Posted : Wednesday, February 10, 2021 3:41:36 PM(UTC)
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i beleive management has the ability to have a carrier on every route on holidays. therefore getting "mandated" to work on a holiday is usually acceptable. also if your 8 hour (non ODL) and have restrictions for 40 hour weeks, being as its a holiday week they would still be in the 40 hours as 8 hours are going to be holiday pay.
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#5 Posted : Wednesday, February 10, 2021 4:05:27 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: 38 yrs toliet scrubber Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Donnyg Go to Quoted Post
furthermore a few cca’s are ns. When did this become acceptable.


What does your LMOU say about the pecking order? Again, what is your steward going to do about it?


What do you know about being a carrier you toilet scrubber?

You can't even spell it correct!


What do you know about carrying mail? Do you even know which item # refers to the pecking order in any LMOU?
I am a professional toilet scrubber for 38 yrs and never carried b4.
I like to file 1767 for the heck of it.
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#6 Posted : Wednesday, February 10, 2021 5:07:39 PM(UTC)
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furthermore a few cca’s are ns. When did this become acceptable.


What does your LMOU say about the pecking order? Again, what is your steward going to do about it?


What do you know about being a carrier you toilet scrubber?

You can't even spell it correct!


What do you know about carrying mail? Do you even know which item # refers to the pecking order in any LMOU?


I know more about carrying mail than you will ever know.


Now get back to those toilets.




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#7 Posted : Wednesday, February 10, 2021 5:17:07 PM(UTC)
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If you known more than I do about carrying mail, then please tell me which item # is for the pecking order in any LMOU.
I am a professional toilet scrubber for 38 yrs and never carried b4.
I like to file 1767 for the heck of it.
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#8 Posted : Thursday, February 11, 2021 6:54:14 AM(UTC)
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If you known more than I do about carrying mail, then please tell me which item # is for the pecking order in any LMOU.


Trick question!

Not falling for your set up!

Now get back to the toilets now that you spelled it correct.

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#9 Posted : Thursday, February 11, 2021 3:52:14 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: 38 yrs professional toilet scrubber Go to Quoted Post
If you known more than I do about carrying mail, then please tell me which item # is for the pecking order in any LMOU.


Trick question!

Not falling for your set up!

Now get back to the toilets now that you spelled it correct.



spelled it *correctly... just saying.
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#10 Posted : Thursday, February 11, 2021 9:41:50 PM(UTC)

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Careful Zoso...that's a slippery slope you've just jumped on.

Once you start correcting the little man's misspellings and grammar you'll find that at some point that's all you're doing.

I think the term he suffers from is being functionally illiterate.

He so desperately wants to be witty and smart, but alas, he fails once again.

It's from a career spending a consideral amount of his time trying to remember if the end of the roll of toilet paper goes over the top or does it go underneath.

Did he ever tell you about that time he went fishing??

I brought a couple of fishing poles.

But, oh no, that wasn't good enough.

He had to show off. He didn't need a fishing pole.

https://www.reddit.com/r...ng_with_your_bare_hands/

I told you he's not the brightest.

The funniest...but not the brightest.

I laugh every time I watch that video.

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#11 Posted : Sunday, February 14, 2021 5:31:18 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: noexp Go to Quoted Post
i beleive management has the ability to have a carrier on every route on holidays. therefore getting "mandated" to work on a holiday is usually acceptable. also if your 8 hour (non ODL) and have restrictions for 40 hour weeks, being as its a holiday week they would still be in the 40 hours as 8 hours are going to be holiday pay.



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#12 Posted : Sunday, February 14, 2021 5:39:18 PM(UTC)
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I am a regular who can not take on over time due dependent care as much as I need the money. That being said I’m 8hrs only and on any holiday management has gone around and asked if carriers were available or willing to work their holiday in the past 3 offices I’ve been in. Now they just post a holiday schedule with forced employees there was never an option and furthermore a few cca’s are ns. When did this become acceptable. I know I can just call out but it’s the sheer disregard for carriers that’s seems unacceptable. (Yes I know the post office hates it’s most valuable asset and that’s how things have always been)


First off holiday scheduling had just been uodate per nalc.org.

Different lmus have different pecking orders

Example: my Lmu is volunteer designated holiday first
NS volunteers 2nd
Ptfs 3rd
Cca 4th
NS non volunteers 5th
Holiday non volunteers 6th

So its possible ccas weren't needed.
Work on holidays/designated do not include ODL until 8 hours have applied.

Non odl matters nothing during holiday scheduling.
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#13 Posted : Monday, February 15, 2021 5:31:44 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: You never carrried mail b4 Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: 38 yrs professional toilet scrubber Go to Quoted Post
If you known more than I do about carrying mail, then please tell me which item # is for the pecking order in any LMOU.


Trick question!

Not falling for your set up!

Now get back to the toilets now that you spelled it correct.



spelled it *correctly... just saying.


Oh no! You know who is going to put you to her fan's list. Her list is growing bigger and bigger everyday.
I am a professional toilet scrubber for 38 yrs and never carried b4.
I like to file 1767 for the heck of it.
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#14 Posted : Monday, February 15, 2021 7:42:52 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: noexp Go to Quoted Post
i beleive management has the ability to have a carrier on every route on holidays. therefore getting "mandated" to work on a holiday is usually acceptable. also if your 8 hour (non ODL) and have restrictions for 40 hour weeks, being as its a holiday week they would still be in the 40 hours as 8 hours are going to be holiday pay.


As already said: WRONG. It's a 40 hour WORK restriction, not a 40 hour of pay restriction. So you can be mandatoried to work your holiday with a 40 hour restriction as long as you get two days off. It all hangs upon not working more than 40 hours. By the same token with a 40 hour restriction you can volunteer to work your holiday.
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#15 Posted : Monday, February 15, 2021 7:51:57 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Donnyg Go to Quoted Post
I am a regular who can not take on over time due dependent care as much as I need the money. That being said I’m 8hrs only and on any holiday management has gone around and asked if carriers were available or willing to work their holiday in the past 3 offices I’ve been in. Now they just post a holiday schedule with forced employees there was never an option and furthermore a few cca’s are ns. When did this become acceptable. I know I can just call out but it’s the sheer disregard for carriers that’s seems unacceptable. (Yes I know the post office hates it’s most valuable asset and that’s how things have always been)


Ya know, some companies hire employees with the goal of their never working more than forty hours. Other companies hire employees with absolutely needing their employees to work no fewer than forty hours. The post office is the latter. You weren't hired to be a forty hour worker, you were hired to work as needed. So I understand your not wishing to work more than 40 hours due to personal needs, but that's not what you were hired for. I'm more than willing to bet during the hiring process nobody said you'd never work more than 40 hours. Of course there are some places where employees don't even get much more than 20 hours a week with the ole p.o.

Now as to holiday scheduling, they are required to post a holiday volunteer sign up. However even if they post a holiday sign up sheet as required, that doesn't mean you or I or anyone else will not be forced in to work, regardless of our not volunteering. So if they're not skipping over anybody that would have volunteered and not forcing in anyone while allowing somebody junior to stay home, they may still not be violating the holiday scheduling pecking order. The only violation may be in not posting a volunteer sign up for the holiday.
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#16 Posted : Monday, February 15, 2021 9:59:14 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Donnyg Go to Quoted Post
I am a regular who can not take on over time due dependent care as much as I need the money. That being said I’m 8hrs only and on any holiday management has gone around and asked if carriers were available or willing to work their holiday in the past 3 offices I’ve been in. Now they just post a holiday schedule with forced employees there was never an option and furthermore a few cca’s are ns. When did this become acceptable. I know I can just call out but it’s the sheer disregard for carriers that’s seems unacceptable. (Yes I know the post office hates it’s most valuable asset and that’s how things have always been)


Ya know, some companies hire employees with the goal of their never working more than forty hours. Other companies hire employees with absolutely needing their employees to work no fewer than forty hours. The post office is the latter. You weren't hired to be a forty hour worker, you were hired to work as needed. So I understand your not wishing to work more than 40 hours due to personal needs, but that's not what you were hired for. I'm more than willing to bet during the hiring process nobody said you'd never work more than 40 hours. Of course there are some places where employees don't even get much more than 20 hours a week with the ole p.o.

Now as to holiday scheduling, they are required to post a holiday volunteer sign up. However even if they post a holiday sign up sheet as required, that doesn't mean you or I or anyone else will not be forced in to work, regardless of our not volunteering. So if they're not skipping over anybody that would have volunteered and not forcing in anyone while allowing somebody junior to stay home, they may still not be violating the holiday scheduling pecking order. The only violation may be in not posting a volunteer sign up for the holiday.


I don't entirely disagree with this, but wasn't one of the most important parts of the labor movement the establishment of the 40 hour workweek? Especially in a union job, shouldn't we have this option most of the time?
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#17 Posted : Monday, February 15, 2021 12:00:14 PM(UTC)
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Careful Zoso...that's a slippery slope you've just jumped on.

Once you start correcting the little man's misspellings and grammar you'll find that at some point that's all you're doing.

I think the term he suffers from is being functionally illiterate.

He so desperately wants to be witty and smart, but alas, he fails once again.

It's from a career spending a consideral amount of his time trying to remember if the end of the roll of toilet paper goes over the top or does it go underneath.

Did he ever tell you about that time he went fishing??

I brought a couple of fishing poles.

But, oh no, that wasn't good enough.

He had to show off. He didn't need a fishing pole.

https://www.reddit.com/r...ng_with_your_bare_hands/

I told you he's not the brightest.

The funniest...but not the brightest.

I laugh every time I watch that video.

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#18 Posted : Monday, February 15, 2021 12:02:10 PM(UTC)
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I don't entirely disagree with this, but wasn't one of the most important parts of the labor movement the establishment of the 40 hour workweek? Especially in a union job, shouldn't we have this option most of the time?


If you did not work for a "service" company then you might have an argument.

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I don't entirely disagree with this, but wasn't one of the most important parts of the labor movement the establishment of the 40 hour workweek? Especially in a union job, shouldn't we have this option most of the time?


I you did not work for a "service" company then you might have an argument.


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I like to file 1767 for the heck of it.
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