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goldscca  
#81 Posted : Sunday, March 28, 2021 6:20:39 PM(UTC)
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I am a GS-11 Auditor for the TTB and I applied for the GS-9 RO position

I'm just curious, why go down two grades? Will it help you break into (or through) GS 12? Is GS 11 about the furthest that you could go as an auditor for the Tax & Trade Board?



@NoodleCounter, I applied for the GS_9 because I am not qualified to apply for a positions hire than that. I am a GS-11, step 2 but have not been a GS-11 for a full year. Because I am a step 2, I will not be hurt in pay as a GS-9 because I can get a high enough step to get paid equivalent to what I get now and should be able to get back up to a GS-11 quickly. GS 11 is not the furthest I can go currently, I just do not want to stay where I am currently. My goal is to get to an 1811 position, but this opening seems like it could be a good stepping block for me especially as they have not posted anything for the next round of 1811's yet to even apply for it.
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#82 Posted : Sunday, March 28, 2021 8:07:16 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: goldscca Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: goldscca Go to Quoted Post
I am a GS-11 Auditor for the TTB and I applied for the GS-9 RO position

I'm just curious, why go down two grades? Will it help you break into (or through) GS 12? Is GS 11 about the furthest that you could go as an auditor for the Tax & Trade Board?



@NoodleCounter, I applied for the GS_9 because I am not qualified to apply for a positions hire than that. I am a GS-11, step 2 but have not been a GS-11 for a full year. Because I am a step 2, I will not be hurt in pay as a GS-9 because I can get a high enough step to get paid equivalent to what I get now and should be able to get back up to a GS-11 quickly. GS 11 is not the furthest I can go currently, I just do not want to stay where I am currently. My goal is to get to an 1811 position, but this opening seems like it could be a good stepping block for me especially as they have not posted anything for the next round of 1811's yet to even apply for it.


During my previous stint of a few years as an RO, I did see o couple of ROs become Criminal Investigators (1811). I do recall that they were excellent ROs and were well educated.

And yes, you will definitely get at least equal pay when you go to the GS 09 as an RO, (it would be rare because you almost never see the same salary repeated through the pay scales), but most likely a little bit more than what you made as a GS 11 step 2. The Federal Government is one of the only places in which you can get a salary increase by going down to the next lower grade, and when you get back to GS 11, you will be at a higher step than before. Some people have actually done that for salary increase strategy.

So, you might go from a GS 11 step 2 at TTB, to a GS 9 step 9 as an RO, and then when you go to the GS 11 you would go to an 11 step 5.



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#83 Posted : Monday, March 29, 2021 3:37:07 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: goldscca Go to Quoted Post
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I am a GS-11 Auditor for the TTB and I applied for the GS-9 RO position

I'm just curious, why go down two grades? Will it help you break into (or through) GS 12? Is GS 11 about the furthest that you could go as an auditor for the Tax & Trade Board?



@NoodleCounter, I applied for the GS_9 because I am not qualified to apply for a positions hire than that. I am a GS-11, step 2 but have not been a GS-11 for a full year. Because I am a step 2, I will not be hurt in pay as a GS-9 because I can get a high enough step to get paid equivalent to what I get now and should be able to get back up to a GS-11 quickly. GS 11 is not the furthest I can go currently, I just do not want to stay where I am currently. My goal is to get to an 1811 position, but this opening seems like it could be a good stepping block for me especially as they have not posted anything for the next round of 1811's yet to even apply for it.


I think I interviewed for IRS CI in 2019.

Went through the process and decided that it wasn’t for me.

I like being an RO. ROs do most of the same things CI does. We just don’t arrest people.

I always say ‘I can’t take your freedoms, but I can take everything else and you can be free to be free under a bridge or in a tent’.
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#84 Posted : Monday, March 29, 2021 7:51:47 AM(UTC)
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I have some news about the RO application process:

From the time I was notified/offered to take the RO assessments and the week time limit that followed to take it, (March 10th to the 17th), until yesterday, March 28th, the status of my application indicated that the assessments were being administered.

Today, it reads: "Qualifications under review", so there has been a change. HR must be in the process of or have obtained the assessment scores and getting ready for the next step.

This shows movement in the process, so for me it's good news!

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#85 Posted : Monday, March 29, 2021 9:12:59 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: scottyd27 Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: goldscca Go to Quoted Post
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I am a GS-11 Auditor for the TTB and I applied for the GS-9 RO position

I'm just curious, why go down two grades? Will it help you break into (or through) GS 12? Is GS 11 about the furthest that you could go as an auditor for the Tax & Trade Board?



@NoodleCounter, I applied for the GS_9 because I am not qualified to apply for a positions hire than that. I am a GS-11, step 2 but have not been a GS-11 for a full year. Because I am a step 2, I will not be hurt in pay as a GS-9 because I can get a high enough step to get paid equivalent to what I get now and should be able to get back up to a GS-11 quickly. GS 11 is not the furthest I can go currently, I just do not want to stay where I am currently. My goal is to get to an 1811 position, but this opening seems like it could be a good stepping block for me especially as they have not posted anything for the next round of 1811's yet to even apply for it.


I think I interviewed for IRS CI in 2019.

Went through the process and decided that it wasn’t for me.

I like being an RO. ROs do most of the same things CI does. We just don’t arrest people.

I always say ‘I can’t take your freedoms, but I can take everything else and you can be free to be free under a bridge or in a tent’.


RO, TCO, and RA are all good stepping stones to CI but the experience is not needed to become a special agent. Other than going out in the field, I would absolutely not compare what an RO does to IRS-CI. Apples and potatoes.
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#86 Posted : Monday, March 29, 2021 9:49:46 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: XFed77 Go to Quoted Post

I have some news about the RO application process:

From the time I was notified/offered to take the RO assessments and the week time limit that followed to take it, (March 10th to the 17th), until yesterday, March 28th, the status of my application indicated that the assessments were being administered.

Today, it reads: "Qualifications under review", so there has been a change. HR must be in the process of or have obtained the assessment scores and getting ready for the next step.

This shows movement in the process, so for me it's good news!



Confirmed! Mine is now showing qualifications under review.

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#87 Posted : Monday, March 29, 2021 1:03:35 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Spazilton Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: XFed77 Go to Quoted Post

I have some news about the RO application process:

From the time I was notified/offered to take the RO assessments and the week time limit that followed to take it, (March 10th to the 17th), until yesterday, March 28th, the status of my application indicated that the assessments were being administered.

Today, it reads: "Qualifications under review", so there has been a change. HR must be in the process of or have obtained the assessment scores and getting ready for the next step.

This shows movement in the process, so for me it's good news!



Confirmed! Mine is now showing qualifications under review.


Mine too. Here’s to seeing more good news in the coming weeks.

Edited by user Monday, March 29, 2021 1:05:58 PM(UTC)  | Reason: Nunya

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scottyd27  
#88 Posted : Monday, March 29, 2021 2:37:14 PM(UTC)
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Don’t get to excited about status changes.

They really don’t mean anything.

Some will change,, some won’t. There’s no ryne or reason to it
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#89 Posted : Tuesday, March 30, 2021 6:32:36 AM(UTC)

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Like SA 1 day said, no experience needed. IRS is one of a few agencies that hire 1811s right out of college; most want qualifying experience. Police departments want officers to spend time in uniform before becoming detectives. ROs make good 1811s because they don't give up easily. We had a subpoena for a biker's girlfriend. Two SAs (former TFIAs) failed to get her served. The boss gave it to a former RO. He got it done in short order. Same situation n an armed escort with an RO seizing a business- former RA was rebuffed and gave up. A few days later, the former RO went with the RO and got it done.
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#90 Posted : Tuesday, March 30, 2021 7:08:17 AM(UTC)
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Like SA 1 day said, no experience needed. IRS is one of a few agencies that hire 1811s right out of college; most want qualifying experience. Police departments want officers to spend time in uniform before becoming detectives. ROs make good 1811s because they don't give up easily. We had a subpoena for a biker's girlfriend. Two SAs (former TFIAs) failed to get her served. The boss gave it to a former RO. He got it done in short order. Same situation n an armed escort with an RO seizing a business- former RA was rebuffed and gave up. A few days later, the former RO went with the RO and got it done.


I’ve hidden in bushes, behind cars stood in the rain to serve subpoenas for DOJ and chief counsel.

That’s the fun RO work.
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#91 Posted : Tuesday, March 30, 2021 9:15:14 AM(UTC)
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Like SA 1 day said, no experience needed. IRS is one of a few agencies that hire 1811s right out of college; most want qualifying experience. Police departments want officers to spend time in uniform before becoming detectives. ROs make good 1811s because they don't give up easily. We had a subpoena for a biker's girlfriend. Two SAs (former TFIAs) failed to get her served. The boss gave it to a former RO. He got it done in short order. Same situation n an armed escort with an RO seizing a business- former RA was rebuffed and gave up. A few days later, the former RO went with the RO and got it done.


I’ve hidden in bushes, behind cars stood in the rain to serve subpoenas for DOJ and chief counsel.

That’s the fun RO work.


lol. That’s interesting! I have to say I’ve never had to hide in the bushes so I’ll give you that.
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#92 Posted : Tuesday, March 30, 2021 9:52:04 AM(UTC)
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Like SA 1 day said, no experience needed. IRS is one of a few agencies that hire 1811s right out of college; most want qualifying experience. Police departments want officers to spend time in uniform before becoming detectives. ROs make good 1811s because they don't give up easily. We had a subpoena for a biker's girlfriend. Two SAs (former TFIAs) failed to get her served. The boss gave it to a former RO. He got it done in short order. Same situation n an armed escort with an RO seizing a business- former RA was rebuffed and gave up. A few days later, the former RO went with the RO and got it done.


I’ve hidden in bushes, behind cars stood in the rain to serve subpoenas for DOJ and chief counsel.

That’s the fun RO work.


lol. That’s interesting! I have to say I’ve never had to hide in the bushes so I’ll give you that.


Bro, I’m relentless.

Half my job is finding taxpayers. And I always find them.
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#93 Posted : Wednesday, March 31, 2021 6:21:16 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: goldscca Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: goldscca Go to Quoted Post
I am a GS-11 Auditor for the TTB and I applied for the GS-9 RO position

I'm just curious, why go down two grades? Will it help you break into (or through) GS 12? Is GS 11 about the furthest that you could go as an auditor for the Tax & Trade Board?



@NoodleCounter, I applied for the GS_9 because I am not qualified to apply for a positions hire than that. I am a GS-11, step 2 but have not been a GS-11 for a full year. Because I am a step 2, I will not be hurt in pay as a GS-9 because I can get a high enough step to get paid equivalent to what I get now and should be able to get back up to a GS-11 quickly. GS 11 is not the furthest I can go currently, I just do not want to stay where I am currently. My goal is to get to an 1811 position, but this opening seems like it could be a good stepping block for me especially as they have not posted anything for the next round of 1811's yet to even apply for it.


I think I interviewed for IRS CI in 2019.

Went through the process and decided that it wasn’t for me.

I like being an RO. ROs do most of the same things CI does. We just don’t arrest people.

I always say ‘I can’t take your freedoms, but I can take everything else and you can be free to be free under a bridge or in a tent’.


Ooh....Ouch 😏.
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#94 Posted : Sunday, April 4, 2021 1:03:26 AM(UTC)
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Sacramento, Ca office started interviewing Internals last week for RO. Good luck all.
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#95 Posted : Monday, April 5, 2021 3:18:17 AM(UTC)
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Where would a new Revenue Officer be trained? Is there an academy or it OJT? Thanks for any information you can provide. Best of luck to everyone!
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#96 Posted : Monday, April 5, 2021 11:06:44 AM(UTC)
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Where would a new Revenue Officer be trained? Is there an academy or it OJT? Thanks for any information you can provide. Best of luck to everyone!


Well I can answer part of that with certainty.

You will have and on-the job instructor (OJI) for 1 year who will revaluation everything you do and help you learn how to work cases. Your OJI will be an experienced RO (FYI I am an OJI). They’ll go to the field with you help your through everything to make you a functional RO after the training.year is over.

All in person training for FY 2021 is cancelled, so if you state ibefore sept 30,2021 you will be trained using Skype and zoom with instructors.

When they resume in person training you will fly out of your POD several times to train at one of the 7 service centers

There is no logic RO which center you go to. I live in Florida and am 2 hours from Jacksonville. When I started I had to go to Kansas City for 2.5 months. But they’ve also changed the time away from home.

I have no idea when in person training is going to resume.
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#97 Posted : Monday, April 5, 2021 11:26:01 AM(UTC)
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Sacramento, Ca office started interviewing Internals last week for RO. Good luck all.


Wow! Things are moving after all!

Although each POD will move at their own pace, interview at different times.

Nonetheless, it's good news!

Thanks for letting us know!
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Sacramento, Ca office started interviewing Internals last week for RO. Good luck all.


I applied for Sacramento and took the test a few weeks back, just waiting to hear something at this point.

I wonder how this impacts potential external applicants :(
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#99 Posted : Wednesday, April 7, 2021 7:42:16 PM(UTC)
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Sacramento, Ca office started interviewing Internals last week for RO. Good luck all.


I applied for Sacramento and took the test a few weeks back, just waiting to hear something at this point.

I wonder how this impacts potential external applicants :(


Don't get discouraged. Whenever there are internal/external announcements for the same position, they always interview internals first.

They usually hire from each announcement, a mix of both for the next class...


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#100 Posted : Friday, April 9, 2021 11:08:43 AM(UTC)
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Sacramento, Ca office started interviewing Internals last week for RO. Good luck all.


I applied for Sacramento and took the test a few weeks back, just waiting to hear something at this point.

I wonder how this impacts potential external applicants :(


Be patient.

They interview internals first. (We can debate the merits of that).

Nothing. And I mean nothing happens fast at the IRS.

If you want to work here get use to it
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