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Postal Blue  
#1 Posted : Friday, July 30, 2021 5:12:43 PM(UTC)
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Just wondering, does anyone skip a house if they only have one piece of junk mail? Seems reasonable to bring it back and case it the next day. Beats having to walk up a long driveway or a ton of stairs to deliver one piece of junk mail worth 20 cents.
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#2 Posted : Friday, July 30, 2021 5:18:52 PM(UTC)
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I deliver it. But I wouldn't fault anyone for taking it back to the P.O.
Subs in my office defintely don't care what class of mail it is. If they don't feel like getting their lazy butts out of the truck, I get to deliver it the next day. Same goes with certified. And God help those poor customers who put their mail on hold while I'm on vacation. Sorry. Had to vent
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#3 Posted : Friday, July 30, 2021 6:12:08 PM(UTC)
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I'm sure people do this. In fact, I recall someone recommending it as a way to make it through probation if you're about to be fired for being slow. However...

1. We are paid by the hour, to deliver all the mail.
2. Are you really that lazy?
3. Theoretically, you could get disciplined for doing this (though seems unlikely).
4. The carrier is not a great judge of what the customer would want. Sure, the customer probably doesn't care about that one piece of junk mail. But do you really know?
5. Plus, this could lead to a sort of slippery-slope. Today, you bring back a piece of standard mail. Next week, you're running behind and bring back a piece of first-class that "doesn't look important."
6. If you start doing this regularly, your route will be adjusted accordingly, and it will become impossible to do your job correctly and finish in 8 hours.

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#4 Posted : Friday, July 30, 2021 6:42:16 PM(UTC)
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#5 Posted : Friday, July 30, 2021 6:50:49 PM(UTC)
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I do it. I don't make a habit of it but it seems like a waste of time to walk up a huge flight of stairs to deliver one piece of bulk. I only do this if I'm working the following day.

I get OT daily on my route so I'm not concerned about ever showing "undertime".
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#6 Posted : Friday, July 30, 2021 7:24:02 PM(UTC)
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It's well known that the rural carriers in our office will skip any box with only one piece of mail. Otherwise they might not get back by 2!

On the other hand our city carriers know every minute of every day could be used against us at the next adjustment.
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#7 Posted : Friday, July 30, 2021 8:40:27 PM(UTC)

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They used to call it the single letter rule in my office. It was the first recommendation before deferring all the flats used to come back before 10 hours in the pre GPS scanner days.

After real time updating they stopped caring about penalty OT. And it went out of usage. I recently heard "single letter rule" again as union and management started fighting over carriers routinely being out past 12 hours and busting past 60 hours for a service week. But now flats already only go out once or twice a week on temporarily vacant routes
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#8 Posted : Friday, July 30, 2021 8:43:09 PM(UTC)
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It never ceases to amaze me how lazy motherf@ckers rationalize and justify their laziness.

It ain't YOUR mail.


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#9 Posted : Saturday, July 31, 2021 2:40:07 AM(UTC)

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And it isn't on the carrier to take unauthorized overtime. From the very first week of probation I was told to bring it back to avoid penalty overtime.

It is the reason for all of the forms and color codes. Local management taught me to skip a house here and there if all it had was a single bulk rate piece in favor of an extra block getting a delivery that day instead of that entire swing coming back due to a lack of carrier man hours.
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#10 Posted : Saturday, July 31, 2021 2:45:38 AM(UTC)
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Deliver it all everyday. Even more so now with Informed Delivery subscriptions.
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#11 Posted : Saturday, July 31, 2021 2:52:01 AM(UTC)
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Please tell me this actually isn’t a “thing” I’m embarrassed for the carriers who do this. It’s not your mail.! Do your effing job!
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#12 Posted : Saturday, July 31, 2021 3:08:39 AM(UTC)
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And you wonder why your station failed the sampling scan when you scanned the piece of mail you should have delivered it the day before. What a lazy ars.
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#13 Posted : Saturday, July 31, 2021 3:13:34 AM(UTC)

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It is as real as only delivering first Amazon then anything with a barcode then DPS only to get more places at least something instead of entire streets "going for a ride" and then getting a cut slip after there is a RIMS text recall so nobody goes over 12 hours that day
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#14 Posted : Saturday, July 31, 2021 4:37:28 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: roger.d Go to Quoted Post
Every piece, every day.


Haven’t heard that phrase with a straight face in 20 years. Sad.
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#15 Posted : Saturday, July 31, 2021 5:02:09 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: John Henry Go to Quoted Post
It is as real as only delivering first Amazon then anything with a barcode then DPS only to get more places at least something instead of entire streets "going for a ride" and then getting a cut slip after there is a RIMS text recall so nobody goes over 12 hours that day


You're always writing about your area's staffing woes. It's a bummer but highly unusual. For nearly all of us, delivering that piece of junk mail doesn't mean someone else won't get their mail for the day.
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#16 Posted : Saturday, July 31, 2021 5:10:49 AM(UTC)

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It is as real as only delivering first Amazon then anything with a barcode then DPS only to get more places at least something instead of entire streets "going for a ride" and then getting a cut slip after there is a RIMS text recall so nobody goes over 12 hours that day


You're always writing about your area's staffing woes. It's a bummer but highly unusual. For nearly all of us, delivering that piece of junk mail doesn't mean someone else won't get their mail for the day.


True that, it was not an everyday occurrence even back in the day when a staff shortage would have been a single day thing and we never went over 10 hours except to collect a blue box.

But today, in a situation where on this week alone 9 out of 40 routes received only parcels on two separate days those who focused on a tree, the single house getting say a Valpack instead of being deferred, multiplied by ten spread through a route does mean a forest the 100 block of X street gets brought back at 8:30 PM and deferred to stop the carrier's working hour clock at 12 hours.

And that is the situation where the single letter rule, cutting the flats for DPS only and only carrying parcels comes into play.
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#17 Posted : Sunday, August 1, 2021 7:24:30 AM(UTC)
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And where do the shortcuts end? I'll just skip this piece of junk mail for this hard to reach house today. Then on some Saturday I know I'll be going to every house Monday so why not just skip every house that has only junk mail? Oops I forgot a package earlier in the route I'll just scan it animal interference and take it tomorrow.

We get paid to deliver everything. The customers do notice. Last year when I went on vacation my route didn't go out the day before I came back. I must have got stopped a dozen times asking about it. Most didn't so much care they didn't get mail that day, but they sure as hell were appalled it was sitting in the post office undelivered. I will not lie to my customers if they ask. And people wonder why our reputation is in the toilet right now.
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The shortcuts begin with color codes and deferring mail to avoid overtime. The take the 1st and 2nd only and/or half of the market ads. Just because the DPS machines sent out something that wouldn't have gone without the machine forcing it out has to go anymore than it ever did.
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#19 Posted : Sunday, August 1, 2021 11:21:49 AM(UTC)
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The only time I'll skip is if all I have is a Red Plum for a dismount house on the first day we can take them out. Since we have four days to get them done, and I always take them all on day one, I actually feel oddly embarrassed only putting a circular in a box for a dismount. Otherwise, whether it's even just unaddressed EDDM or a piece of current resident standard, it gets delivered. Who wants to take a gamble or even just bother with it at the end of day?

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#20 Posted : Sunday, August 1, 2021 2:03:39 PM(UTC)
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The only time I'll skip is if all I have is a Red Plum for a dismount house on the first day we can take them out. Since we have four days to get them done, and I always take them all on day one, I actually feel oddly embarrassed only putting a circular in a box for a dismount. Otherwise, whether it's even just unaddressed EDDM or a piece of current resident standard, it gets delivered. Who wants to take a gamble or even just bother with it at the end of day?


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