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mxshodog  
#1 Posted : Saturday, September 18, 2021 1:53:32 AM(UTC)
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I need a subject matter expert familiar with Paid Parental Leave (PPL) and Family Medical Leave Act (FMLA). I'm getting pushback from my supervisor concerning the use of PPL. The supervisor is telling me he has the right to revoke or make me work a couple of hours a week while on PPL. I'm also getting lectured about bonding with our newborn as it is the mother's sole responsibility, not the father's. He also told me that the command is not obligated to give me the full 480 hrs even though I sign a 12-week work obligation. I was also told that he and HR can dictate how many hours of PPL I can use as I am mission essential (ME) to the command. The funny thing about his comment is although I'm not officially ME, he is currently working on getting it changed. I believe that everything he is doing is illegal as he is violating my rights according to FMLA regulations. Does anyone know if this is correct and what options do I have? Should I file an EEO complaint or report this to a higher authority. I'm really getting frustrated as is my wife and our baby is due in a couple of days.
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#2 Posted : Saturday, September 18, 2021 6:36:23 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: mxshodog Go to Quoted Post
I need a subject matter expert familiar with Paid Parental Leave (PPL) and Family Medical Leave Act (FMLA). I'm getting pushback from my supervisor concerning the use of PPL. The supervisor is telling me he has the right to revoke or make me work a couple of hours a week while on PPL. I'm also getting lectured about bonding with our newborn as it is the mother's sole responsibility, not the father's. He also told me that the command is not obligated to give me the full 480 hrs even though I sign a 12-week work obligation. I was also told that he and HR can dictate how many hours of PPL I can use as I am mission essential (ME) to the command. The funny thing about his comment is although I'm not officially ME, he is currently working on getting it changed. I believe that everything he is doing is illegal as he is violating my rights according to FMLA regulations. Does anyone know if this is correct and what options do I have? Should I file an EEO complaint or report this to a higher authority. I'm really getting frustrated as is my wife and our baby is due in a couple of days.
This part in bold is a violation of EEO law, specifically discrimination on the basis of Sex (male). If you have this in writing (like an email from your supervisor), I am pretty certain your agency attorneys (aka JAG if you are in DAF/DA/DoN) would want to resolve and settle this fairly early in the process, as this is pretty damning, per se violation. You can also talk to your 2nd level supervisor about this issue (or the unit commander if that applies).

As the other aspects, I am pretty certain they violation some of the HR rules and regulations, but I'll leave those to the HR gurus here.

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#3 Posted : Saturday, September 18, 2021 4:20:03 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: mxshodog Go to Quoted Post
I need a subject matter expert familiar with Paid Parental Leave (PPL) and Family Medical Leave Act (FMLA). I'm getting pushback from my supervisor concerning the use of PPL. The supervisor is telling me he has the right to revoke or make me work a couple of hours a week while on PPL. I'm also getting lectured about bonding with our newborn as it is the mother's sole responsibility, not the father's. He also told me that the command is not obligated to give me the full 480 hrs even though I sign a 12-week work obligation. I was also told that he and HR can dictate how many hours of PPL I can use as I am mission essential (ME) to the command. The funny thing about his comment is although I'm not officially ME, he is currently working on getting it changed. I believe that everything he is doing is illegal as he is violating my rights according to FMLA regulations. Does anyone know if this is correct and what options do I have? Should I file an EEO complaint or report this to a higher authority. I'm really getting frustrated as is my wife and our baby is due in a couple of days.
This part in bold is a violation of EEO law, specifically discrimination on the basis of Sex (male). If you have this in writing (like an email from your supervisor), I am pretty certain your agency attorneys (aka JAG if you are in DAF/DA/DoN) would want to resolve and settle this fairly early in the process, as this is pretty damning, per se violation. You can also talk to your 2nd level supervisor about this issue (or the unit commander if that applies).

As the other aspects, I am pretty certain they violation some of the HR rules and regulations, but I'll leave those to the HR gurus here.



Most of our conversations have been verbal. I asked to see the regulations where it says a supervisor can bring an employee in a couple days week while on PPL or any leave but his response is always argumentive. What gets me is others in our command took PPL with no issues. His response is always I'm mission essential although my PD does not designated me as one.
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#4 Posted : Sunday, September 19, 2021 4:37:04 AM(UTC)
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Out of curiosity, is the supervisor a uniformed member or recently retired military now CIV, or pure CIV?

I ask because my history with the first two always seem to be disconnected with how the real world operates.

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mxshodog  
#5 Posted : Sunday, September 19, 2021 12:59:46 PM(UTC)
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The individual is retired military but been GS for about 15 years. He never knew about the PPL program until I informed them of my intentions and submitted my paperwork.
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#6 Posted : Sunday, September 19, 2021 1:11:47 PM(UTC)
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The individual is retired military but been GS for about 15 years. He never knew about the PPL program until I informed them of my intentions and submitted my paperwork.


With 15 years, its disappointing that the PPL that was just recently passed and was made to be quite a big deal, was missed by your supervisor. Hopefully you can help teach and make him/her aware of the process(es).

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#7 Posted : Sunday, September 19, 2021 2:28:32 PM(UTC)
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I tried but I keep getting push back. I even shared a few links to the regulations and how its a part of FMLA. Unfortunately, I may have to file an EEO complaint or talk to my unit commander if he continues to impede or try to limit my PPL entitlement.
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#8 Posted : Sunday, November 28, 2021 6:56:10 AM(UTC)
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First, PPL falls under FMLA. PPL is technically FMLA, except it is paid by the gov. You sign a 12 week contract to continue after use, however the only thing you have to “pay back” is contributions to FEHB the employer makes on your behalf. They CANNOT dictate how you use YOUR benefit. Call EEOC. Call OIG. Call your Senator and Congressperson. I am a former US Army Civilian that worked for a retired USAF 1st Sgt that thought he knew everything and we were still his “troops.” I’m a veteran myself and I let them know I am not active duty, I’m a civilian. They don’t own me. Start shooting off emails to your supervisor and copy HR on them all. And copy your personal email as well. Keep a paper trail. Supervisors hate paper trails. That’s why he has verbal conversations about the issue because he knows what he is doing is wrong.

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