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mm012  
#1 Posted : Thursday, October 28, 2021 2:22:33 PM(UTC)
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Background: our "office" has 2 employees currently, 2210 GS-12 and GS-11. Neither are supervisory or lead positions. Our PDs have been superseded, and a new, supervisory GS-13 PD for our office has been created. Based on actual duties and the PDs, the old GS-12 aligns with the duties of the GS-13 (except for supervisory tasks), and the old GS-11 aligns with the GS-12. Funding for the additional GS-13 has been allocated as well by higher headquarters. We have heard from sister orgs in our agency that also utilize these new PDs, that they are filling all 3 slots, and the supervisory 13 is only supervising the 12 and 11. One claims their 12 was promoted into the 13 position after a desk audit determining his duties aligned with the 13, not the 12. When our supervisor (GS-14) asked our HR about the new PDs and the GS-13 position, we were given the following info:

Despite very clear differences in expected duties in the PDs, the GS-11 and GS-12 positions are being rolled into the new PDs, since higher released the new PDs with guidance they were to replace the old PDs (though the new PD doesn't actually say superseded xxxxx).

The GS-13 position is not being advertised or attempted to fill at this time, with the explanation that "First level supervisory positions are required by OPM regulations to supervise a minimum of 3 employees", and that as other 2210 PDs were refreshed they would look at re-aligning one or more of our other 2210 employees, to meet this requirement.

I have not been able to find a single policy document, local or otherwise, stating this is a hard requirement. I found a GSA internal policy that supervisors "should normally" supervise at least three employees, but nothing from DoD or OPM or anything. Is this actually a requirement? Or does it seem like an unofficial rule of thumb to minimize the number of supervisory positions (potentially saving $ on payroll costs, I guess)?

Also, would the 12 be able to be promoted into the 13 via desk audit, since his old PD and daily tasks align with the 13 more than the new 12? Or would the fact he doesn't supervise currently keep a desk audit from doing much good? And if the 12 was potentially able, would the 11 potentially be able to do the same (after the 12 vacates for the 13) to get promoted into the 12, and leave the new 11 as a vacancy to be announced?

I appreciate any advice!
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#2 Posted : Friday, October 29, 2021 7:13:29 AM(UTC)
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Odds are highly against a non-supervisory GS-12 becoming a supervisory GS-13 without it running through USA Jobs.

Unless the base you work on is a MTFB.
mm012  
#3 Posted : Friday, November 5, 2021 12:21:56 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: 0018 Hopeful Go to Quoted Post
Odds are highly against a non-supervisory GS-12 becoming a supervisory GS-13 without it running through USA Jobs.

Unless the base you work on is a MTFB.


That's what I figured. I don't know how they bought off on it. Don't suppose you know anything as far as number of subordinates to "justify" a first line supervisor?
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